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Redish 73626 has
No ships and casting voodoo such as call leviation. Is that a griefing violation?

I dont think it is until he has done it for a long time. Like what pro did, when he had nothing and was proxying for a long time, that was what defined our griefing, however if he does it for a short time then its just him being a w doc for a short time

Although time can be crucial, it is not the fundamental requirement. Every griefing case starts with this Fundamental question:

Is the account playing at its own full benefit?

If the answer is NO, then you do NOT need to check anything else. If the answer is YES, then other factors might come in, like you said, time. You can find the full details here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4318

Every case is different as it is hard to determine the account's full benefit. We are the ones who will determine this in the end and no one else. So, it is clear that our judgment defines the game. However, this is why administration exists in the first place. So far, we have had good resolutions in the majority of the incidents but as the receiving end, you might not always be happy with a decision outcome. This is why I am writing this paragraph; Our decisions when we enforce the rules are not to make you happy but to keep the game fair for everyone.

As for reporting, I have already started and finished my investigation on Redish, before I saw this topic. Please, always use in-game controls/forms/PMs for reporting one player and not the forums. Rest assured that all needed actions will be taken.

Lefty wrote:[report]0:17224:f2fc85d74f8f744559111ff0965e8be9:Redish[/report]
Redish 73626 has
No ships and casting voodoo such as call leviation. Is that a griefing violation?

Wow my own little thread. I am honored that you would consider me capable of being a 'griefer'. With only 300 or so cards to my name that would be one impressive feat. I actually considered using my forced labour cards on you too but decided that those would 'damage' Grimrock (Apologies for the confusion Wolfie) much more seeing as you have no trading fleets. Like you he had a mindbar up so in the end those went to an inactive player.

@ CJ: I am hesitant to make this sound like a good bye post as I know your position around those. Thank you for a great game. Over the last couple of years I have spent way too many hours raiding, trading and generally just messing around. Logging in has become part of a morning ritual.

Redish wrote:

Lefty wrote:[report]0:17224:f2fc85d74f8f744559111ff0965e8be9:Redish[/report]
Redish 73626 has
No ships and casting voodoo such as call leviation. Is that a griefing violation?

Wow my own little thread. I am honored that you would consider me capable of being a 'griefer'. With only 300 or so cards to my name that would be one impressive feat. I actually considered using my forced labour cards on you too but decided that those would 'damage' GRIM much more seeing as you have no trading fleets (that is if you are who I think you are). Like you he had a mindbar up so in the end those went to an inactive player.

@ CJ: I am hesitant to make this sound like a good bye post as I know your position around those. Thank you for a great game. Over the last couple of years I have spent way too many hours raiding, trading and generally just messing around. Logging in has become part of a morning ritual.

Dafuq Grim has with all of this? If that Grim you mention is aimed twoards Grimm Brothers as a guild. If not then I apologise in advance.


Edit: All good

He tried to cast on me, I asked him what it was for, no respond, from what I can tell, Redish is using the rest of his unsold voodoo on random people before leaving, if that was not his intentions, I am not sure why.