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Re: Gold bar market discussion

Postby DezNutz » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:19 pm

Captain Jack wrote:We have been trying to figure a good way to go a step forward on this.

It is clear that we can not use any of the existing features. The build up influence for example, as it has been brought up. We need new ways.

See how it flows; the game needs gold coins sinkers. One of the gold coins sinkers is influence. But so are Gold Bars. In case you have not realized it, Gold bars are one of the greatest gold sinkers in the game.

Gold sinkers are very important. Especially now that WAR is not burning as much gold as before.
Influence is a great sinker; adding gold bars will not change much. In fact, it will end up in sinking less gold coin than now.

We do not want to rush but it is clear that this is what the games needs mostly right now; it has been our main focus lately. We need a worthy concept for this and truth is that we have some very interesting ideas.

Btw, for those unaware, a lvl 20 Goldsmith can produce Gold Bars as low as 1509 a piece.
The worst price right now is 1,893 GC. With Duke + Indian Company Cards (English/Spanish/Dutch) it can get up to 1978 or 2.35M a day (or 3.73M at full speed)

Not really bad I believe.
Sure you may be able to pull of more with another type of investment but the choice is yours as different investments also result to different gameplay/risks.

So, it must be clear that if we want to increase Gold Bars consumption, it is not really for Goldsmiths. It is for other reasons.


What new game feature can be implemented that is going to require a absorbent and consistent amount of GBs usage that everyone is going to partake in? I don't see anything that is going to cause large amounts of GBs to be used on a consistent basis. Influence is the only answer that creates an enormous increase in GB consumption, consistently. I know I've made a previous suggestion within this topic to split it between GB and GC, but after consideration, I think that GB should just replace GC for influence purchases. The transition to GBs for influence would have a double edged sword for the "sinkers". The GC that was used for Influence is now used for GBs which is than sunk into influence. You get a two for one.
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Re: Gold bar market discussion

Postby sXs » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:27 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Captain Jack wrote:We have been trying to figure a good way to go a step forward on this.

It is clear that we can not use any of the existing features. The build up influence for example, as it has been brought up. We need new ways.

See how it flows; the game needs gold coins sinkers. One of the gold coins sinkers is influence. But so are Gold Bars. In case you have not realized it, Gold bars are one of the greatest gold sinkers in the game.

Gold sinkers are very important. Especially now that WAR is not burning as much gold as before.
Influence is a great sinker; adding gold bars will not change much. In fact, it will end up in sinking less gold coin than now.

We do not want to rush but it is clear that this is what the games needs mostly right now; it has been our main focus lately. We need a worthy concept for this and truth is that we have some very interesting ideas.

Btw, for those unaware, a lvl 20 Goldsmith can produce Gold Bars as low as 1509 a piece.
The worst price right now is 1,893 GC. With Duke + Indian Company Cards (English/Spanish/Dutch) it can get up to 1978 or 2.35M a day (or 3.73M at full speed)

Not really bad I believe.
Sure you may be able to pull of more with another type of investment but the choice is yours as different investments also result to different gameplay/risks.

So, it must be clear that if we want to increase Gold Bars consumption, it is not really for Goldsmiths. It is for other reasons.


What new game feature can be implemented that is going to require a absorbent amount of GBs that everyone is going to use? I don't see anything that is going to cause large amounts of GBs to be used on a consistent basis. Influence is the only answer that creates an enormous increase in GB consumption, consistently. I know I've made a previous suggestion within this topic to split it between GB and GC, but after consideration, I think that GB should just replace GC for influence purchases. The transition to GBs for influence would have a double edged sword for the "sinkers". The GC that was used for Influence is now used for GBs which is than sunk into influence. You get a two for one.


+1

I agree with this and would add 1 more aspect to add another dimension. Gold Bars purchased in a port could not be used for influence in that port. They must be transported. I think this would add a few more black flags to the seas of Avonmora.
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Re: Gold bar market discussion

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:10 pm

German press reports a successful skirmish attack on a musuem in Berlin : whilst only 1 gold coin was taken, it did weigh 100kg : a maniaclally cackling figure, dressed in black, was seen to struggle loading a very heavy box onto his row-boat on the nearby river : Soem witnesses state the boat was registered in a mysterious port named 'Chalkos' and bore the name ' No more Mr Nice Guy!'.

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Re: Gold bar market discussion

Postby DezNutz » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:49 pm

Danik wrote:German press reports a successful skirmish attack on a musuem in Berlin : whilst only 1 gold coin was taken, it did weigh 100kg : a maniaclally cackling figure, dressed in black, was seen to struggle loading a very heavy box onto his row-boat on the nearby river : Soem witnesses state the boat was registered in a mysterious port named 'Chalkos' and bore the name ' No more Mr Nice Guy!'.

Kart was not available for comment, being detained in hospital with a serious abdominal rupture.


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Re: Gold bar market discussion

Postby Mack » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:40 pm

Danik wrote:German press reports a successful skirmish attack on a musuem in Berlin : whilst only 1 gold coin was taken, it did weigh 100kg : a maniaclally cackling figure, dressed in black, was seen to struggle loading a very heavy box onto his row-boat on the nearby river : Soem witnesses state the boat was registered in a mysterious port named 'Chalkos' and bore the name ' No more Mr Nice Guy!'.

Kart was not available for comment, being detained in hospital with a serious abdominal rupture.

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Re: Gold bar market discussion

Postby PhoenixKnight » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:20 am

Pirates kidnapped the governors daughter and are demanding 10000 gold bars in ransom. Pay or you lose all favor with the daughter!
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Re: Gold bar market discussion

Postby Donald Trump » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:25 am

PhoenixKnight wrote:Pirates kidnapped the governors daughter and are demanding 10000 gold bars in ransom. Pay or you lose all favor with the daughter!


I like this as an event.
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Re: Gold bar market discussion

Postby Meliva » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:35 am

PhoenixKnight wrote:Pirates kidnapped the governors daughter and are demanding 10000 gold bars in ransom. Pay or you lose all favor with the daughter!


eh 5 ruby necklaces and she will forget everything the pirates did. let them have her for now :hh
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Re: Gold bar market discussion

Postby Donald Trump » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:45 am

I have a fix.


Pirates kidnapped the governors daughter and are demanding 10000 gold bars in ransom! Pay up or lose your wife!

(you do not get your wife back until you pay up).
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Re: Gold bar market discussion

Postby Shadowood » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:50 am

She came willingly when I showed her my Flagship! :cannon
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