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Re: Decree of Liberty

Postby sXs » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:56 am

Kangaroo wrote:
Oh, I get it, you mean like "certain individuals" in GB (sorry you cut that gig), Vudu, IoM and any number of other groupings doing the same thing?
But oddly, you have a hardon for Sapin, that newish nation without ports.. Tbh though even Spain makes no sense in that context.

This isn't pot meeting kettle mate, it's more like personal bias meeting opportunity.
That last "opportunity" cost you a lot more than any Spanish constituent, as will the next, and the one after that if you really do have "dumbarse enough" stamped on your forehead.

Again, not once as a nation in the last 12 months has Spain acted aggressively towards an individual or nation that did not attack it first.
"Certain other nations" are welcome to growth, we'd even celebrate it, but not at our expense.


You know who it was Roo.... don't act the fool here. You guys argued about it in you nation forums. When this "individual" didn''t get his way he went rogue. You did nothing.

You have certain options at your disposal as King of Spain...... but did nothing.
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Re: Decree of Liberty

Postby Kangaroo » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:02 am

Feniks wrote:
Kangaroo wrote:
Oh, I get it, you mean like "certain individuals" in GB (sorry you cut that gig), Vudu, IoM and any number of other groupings doing the same thing?
But oddly, you have a hardon for Sapin, that newish nation without ports.. Tbh though even Spain makes no sense in that context.

This isn't pot meeting kettle mate, it's more like personal bias meeting opportunity.
That last "opportunity" cost you a lot more than any Spanish constituent, as will the next, and the one after that if you really do have "dumbarse enough" stamped on your forehead.

Again, not once as a nation in the last 12 months has Spain acted aggressively towards an individual or nation that did not attack it first.
"Certain other nations" are welcome to growth, we'd even celebrate it, but not at our expense.


You know who it was Roo.... don't act the fool here. You guys argued about it in you nation forums. When this "individual" didn''t get his way he went rogue. You did nothing.

You have certain options at your disposal as King of Spain...... but did nothing.


I am perfectly content with you underestimating what I did tbh
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Re: Decree of Liberty

Postby sXs » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:06 am

Kangaroo wrote:
Feniks wrote:
Kangaroo wrote:
Oh, I get it, you mean like "certain individuals" in GB (sorry you cut that gig), Vudu, IoM and any number of other groupings doing the same thing?
But oddly, you have a hardon for Sapin, that newish nation without ports.. Tbh though even Spain makes no sense in that context.

This isn't pot meeting kettle mate, it's more like personal bias meeting opportunity.
That last "opportunity" cost you a lot more than any Spanish constituent, as will the next, and the one after that if you really do have "dumbarse enough" stamped on your forehead.

Again, not once as a nation in the last 12 months has Spain acted aggressively towards an individual or nation that did not attack it first.
"Certain other nations" are welcome to growth, we'd even celebrate it, but not at our expense.


You know who it was Roo.... don't act the fool here. You guys argued about it in you nation forums. When this "individual" didn''t get his way he went rogue. You did nothing.

You have certain options at your disposal as King of Spain...... but did nothing.


I am perfectly content with you underestimating what I did tbh


Didn't reach out to make things right though did you? Don't claim Spain is a peaceful nation when you allowed it to happen without even contacting the nations he went after.

Your actions in that regard, or lack of action, shows you, as a nation, condoned his actions.
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Re: Decree of Liberty

Postby Meliva » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:14 am

So much discussion over what's right, what's wrong, its almost like watching a debate, or an election. I am somewhat curious though, has either side taken any action, or is it still just talking-I notice a few fleets in Aiora from time to time, but I'm not sure if that's part of it, or just coincidence.
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Re: Decree of Liberty

Postby ChaIbaud » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:46 am

You’d have to ask Dman about that, as most of them have stated in private messages this adventure is almost solely for his correction. I did light up Jim but I don’t think it was toxic enough to be reported... it only took 20 FFJ through his mindbar and counter curses..
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Re: Decree of Liberty

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:54 am

Lol, I am a simple trader ....... of cannonballs and I have had occasion to utilize my express delivery service in the last couple of days with voodoo being utilized to ensure delivery as well :D :D :D
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Re: Decree of Liberty

Postby Kangaroo » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:12 pm

Feniks wrote:You know who it was Roo.... don't act the fool here. You guys argued about it in you nation forums. When this "individual" didn''t get his way he went rogue. You did nothing.

You have certain options at your disposal as King of Spain...... but did nothing.


I am perfectly content with you underestimating what I did tbh[/quote]

Didn't reach out to make things right though did you? Don't claim Spain is a peaceful nation when you allowed it to happen without even contacting the nations he went after.

Your actions in that regard, or lack of action, shows you, as a nation, condoned his actions.[/quote]

Nope, I don't see my role as the Spanish police, and certainly not with regard to external actions.
I have had on occasion national rulers contact me regarding specific concerns and in EVERY SINGLE instance I have acted to ensure that firstly the national interests of Spain are in order and secondly that the issue put in front of me has been dealt with, not always to the claimants benefit, but with due respect and fair play.

Lux didn't get what they wanted off William and thought we might be an easier target, they were wallowing at sea until you decided to bankroll them, NFI why but I am told you have a set against me personally because I don't get hit or lit up much.
1. I don't ever light anyone up unless attacked, and then I go balls out.
2. I am constantly multilayered protected, I respect piracy as a profession and make it my aim to be an expensive target for pirates.
3. I don't seek to antagonise other players, and respect all types of game style provided they provide opportunity for equal response.
4. I don't do **** measuring.
5. My war fleets are adequate

If I don't get hit much it's probably due to the combination of some of those factors, not because I hide behind anyone's skirt, not do I cast voodoo without the target knowing whom has casted, good or bad.

I'm not sure how Luxembourg's overreaching has suddenly become about me, but if it has my case rests comfortably.

It would be in the best interests for all involved to move on, the next time Luxembourg sues for peace we may be more accomodating.
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Re: Decree of Liberty

Postby sXs » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:18 pm

Kangaroo wrote:
Nope, I don't see my role as the Spanish police, and certainly not with regard to external actions.
I have had on occasion national rulers contact me regarding specific concerns and in EVERY SINGLE instance I have acted to ensure that firstly the national interests of Spain are in order and secondly that the issue put in front of me has been dealt with, not always to the claimants benefit, but with due respect and fair play.

Lux didn't get what they wanted off William and thought we might be an easier target, they were wallowing at sea until you decided to bankroll them, NFI why but I am told you have a set against me personally because I don't get hit or lit up much.
1. I don't ever light anyone up unless attacked, and then I go balls out.
2. I am constantly multilayered protected, I respect piracy as a profession and make it my aim to be an expensive target for pirates.
3. I don't seek to antagonise other players, and respect all types of game style provided they provide opportunity for equal response.
4. I don't do **** measuring.
5. My war fleets are adequate

If I don't get hit much it's probably due to the combination of some of those factors, not because I hide behind anyone's skirt, not do I cast voodoo without the target knowing whom has casted, good or bad.

I'm not sure how Luxembourg's overreaching has suddenly become about me, but if it has my case rests comfortably.

It would be in the best interests for all involved to move on, the next time Luxembourg sues for peace we may be more accomodating.


So your saying it was ok for a member of you Nation to cost other nations 100s of million, but the retaliation is unjust? Really? you think It should just be washed under the rug?

It became about you because you inserted yourself into the conversation.
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Re: Decree of Liberty

Postby sXs » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:23 pm

Kangaroo wrote:3. I don't seek to antagonise other players, and respect all types of game style provided they provide opportunity for equal response.


Months of lost tax revenue to a nation, 100s of millions spent on influence rebuilding both credits and gold.

What would you consider an "equal response" to that?
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Re: Decree of Liberty

Postby Grimrock Litless » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:30 pm

Kangaroo wrote:4. I don't do **** measuring.


Nice.
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