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Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 5:14 pm
by PhoenixKnight
Tax Evasion:
Turns: 8
Stack-able: No
Rare
Cast on fleet ID
Effect: Fleet does not pay taxes for any transaction for 24 hours.

Tax Fraud:
Turns: 12
Stack-able: No
Rare
Cast on Player ID:
Effect: If player had any active Tax evasion casts in the last 72 hours, Player pays 10 times the evaded taxes.

Re: Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 5:48 pm
by Grimrock Litless
I think Tax Evasion should be common/uncommon. As it only target one fleet, I don't think it will save you that much money.

Re: Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:08 pm
by PhoenixKnight
Grimrock Litless wrote:I think Tax Evasion should be common/uncommon. As it only target one fleet, I don't think it will save you that much money.

I am making int in lieu of Treasure fleet.

Re: Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:10 pm
by Maha
PhoenixKnight wrote:Effect: If player had any active Tax evasion casts in the last 72 hours, Player pays 10 times the evaded taxes.

if the effect was instant, than it would be a wonderfully combo.
say that a certain citizen of Grenada owns 791 ships. cast a taxation and an evasion wait 3 days and fraud him. normal taxation would be 791x50=39550. add taxation: 158200; three days: 474,600 The fraud card would drain 4.7 million. nice start of a raid :)

now our certain Grenadian is alert etc. but what about the weekend traders?

**edited to correct calculations **

Re: Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:34 pm
by Grimrock Litless
Maha wrote:
PhoenixKnight wrote:Effect: If player had any active Tax evasion casts in the last 72 hours, Player pays 10 times the evaded taxes.

if the effect was instant, than it would be a wonderfully combo.
say that a certain citizen of Grenada owns 791 ships. cast a taxation and an evasion wait 3 days and fraud him. normal taxation would be 791x50=39550. add taxation: 158200; three days: 474,600 The fraud card would drain 4.7 million. nice start of a raid :)

now our certain Grenadian is alert etc. but what about the weekend traders?

**edited to correct calculations **


Hmm, I swear I think I've seen that ship number before.

Re: Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:30 pm
by DezNutz
Interesting, but I'm undecided.

Maha wrote:
PhoenixKnight wrote:Effect: If player had any active Tax evasion casts in the last 72 hours, Player pays 10 times the evaded taxes.

if the effect was instant, than it would be a wonderfully combo.
say that a certain citizen of Grenada owns 791 ships. cast a taxation and an evasion wait 3 days and fraud him. normal taxation would be 791x50=39550. add taxation: 158200; three days: 474,600 The fraud card would drain 4.7 million. nice start of a raid :)

now our certain Grenadian is alert etc. but what about the weekend traders?

**edited to correct calculations **


Maha, evasion only works on a single fleet. You would have to cast a minimum of 159 evasions to cover the 791 ships.

Re: Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:40 pm
by PhoenixKnight
DezNutz wrote:Interesting, but I'm undecided.
Maha, evasion only works on a single fleet. You would have to cast a minimum of 159 evasions to cover the 791 ships.


We can change that.

Re: Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:00 pm
by DezNutz
PhoenixKnight wrote:
DezNutz wrote:Interesting, but I'm undecided.
Maha, evasion only works on a single fleet. You would have to cast a minimum of 159 evasions to cover the 791 ships.


We can change that.


Well....

If all ships of the target player, I would make the evasion card work only on oneself. Otherwise you just made a troll card.

If a specific number, I would say no more than a 100 ships per cast.

I would also assume that Fraud would check if the evasion actually occurred, not just if the card was cast.

Re: Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:39 pm
by Maha
DezNutz wrote:Interesting, but I'm undecided.

Maha, evasion only works on a single fleet. You would have to cast a minimum of 159 evasions to cover the 791 ships.

you're right!

if it's only 1 fleet, than it's hardly the bonus; even with a 1000gc ship tax it will bring 5000 gc tax evasion. that would be the cheapest rare voodoo card ever.
PhoenixKnight wrote:I am making int in lieu of Treasure fleet.


care to explain?

Re: Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:57 pm
by PhoenixKnight
Treasure fleet is Rare and it affects one fleet.