Advanced Piracy(Uncommon)(same system like advanced piracy common)
5 Turn
Stack 5 Times

For each stacks
Large Frigates generate 1%, Ship of the Line generate 2%, Man o War generate 3% more plunder income when they deal the last winning blow.

or

Advanced Piracy(Rare)

Naval Domination (Rare)
8 Turn
No stack
For each; Flag Galleon in winning fleet 1.5%, large frigates 2% , Ship of the lines 4%, Man o War 8% more plunder income when they deal the last winning blow.

So when 5 MOW fleet won a fight they will generate total 40% more plunder income(paid by target player).

My main reason for making this suggestion encourage bigger ships usage for battles. Numbers may need adjust so all kind of feedbacks appreciated.


Sincerely Mugiwara...

Interesting Idea. Encourages people to use bigger ships to plunder, while they add up their danger gain. I will think on this some, but right now I like the concept.

Advanced Piracy is designed to be a card for pirates so it would be best to exclude the Man of War since it's a ship for nations. In my opinion I'd include the Large Frigate because it is an efficient ship & I use one in my fleet & maybe the Ship of the Line. I'd also include the Cutter since there are pirates who like to use small ships.

That's my opinion

Darakis Out

Darakis wrote:Advanced Piracy is designed to be a card for pirates so it would be best to exclude the Man of War since it's a ship for nations. In my opinion I'd include the Large Frigate because it is an efficient ship & I use one in my fleet & maybe the Ship of the Line. I'd also include the Cutter since there are pirates who like to use small ships.

That's my opinion

Darakis Out

Name can be different. i just want to show similarities thats why i used existing name. Advanced piracy will still remain in game. im not trying to change existing card.

As i mentioned this suggestion's main idea encourage to sail bigger ships and use them for plunder activities. Its not for boost current fleets plunder income. if you want to get full benefit from this card you should sail with bigger ships.

As present mostly you can see max 2 sotl 1 large frigate which equal to 10% plunder income with rare card suggestion which is fair in my opinion. if more bigger ships will sail you need to get bigger ships to beat them.

About cutters, advanced piracy already support a lot of small ships. Sloops, sloop of wars, brigantines, brigs of war and frigates. adding cutter wont make much sense and its against this suggestion's main idea. also cutter known as ship of nobles if you remember sign up screen:)


Mugiwara...

How about, Piracy Arts, it needs the target player to have Advanced Piracy active on him before you can cast this, it will also remove the existing AP on him when cast.

i dont have problem with name suggestions. Piracy Arts sounds fine. at present i just want to focus on main idea of this suggestion instead of cosmetic changes:) its easy to decide name;)

+1
add flag galleon to the list

i like the second option

also my personal preference rare one. for encourage bigger ships usage for plunders rare suggestion will fit better for that purpose. i added flag galleon too. numbers will adjusted due to demands.


Mugiwara...

Mugiwara wrote:

Darakis wrote:Advanced Piracy is designed to be a card for pirates so it would be best to exclude the Man of War since it's a ship for nations. In my opinion I'd include the Large Frigate because it is an efficient ship & I use one in my fleet & maybe the Ship of the Line. I'd also include the Cutter since there are pirates who like to use small ships.

That's my opinion

Darakis Out

Name can be different. i just want to show similarities thats why i used existing name. Advanced piracy will still remain in game. im not trying to change existing card.

As i mentioned this suggestion's main idea encourage to sail bigger ships and use them for plunder activities. Its not for boost current fleets plunder income. if you want to get full benefit from this card you should sail with bigger ships.

As present mostly you can see max 2 sotl 1 large frigate which equal to 10% plunder income with rare card suggestion which is fair in my opinion. if more bigger ships will sail you need to get bigger ships to beat them.

About cutters, advanced piracy already support a lot of small ships. Sloops, sloop of wars, brigantines, brigs of war and frigates. adding cutter wont make much sense and its against this suggestion's main idea. also cutter known as ship of nobles if you remember sign up screen:)


Mugiwara...

I understand you want to encourage users to sail bigger ships. But for a pirate card to be be a pirate card it would have to be use as if the player was a pirate. Pirates cannot use Man of Wars. That's why I'd exclude them. The reason I think cutters should be included is you can see them in almost every war fleet (best known for being a tail).

For some reason beyond me; getting players to use more powerful ships is a goal. What benefit is there to doing this?

Is this really where we should be basing game direction on? All on restoring the quantity of 2 ships?

Now every time someone recommends an idea that is remotely hostile; we can just reject it playing the "it may hurt big ship owners" card.

What a privileged class of large ship owners. That their safety is more important than legitimate voodoo suggestions.