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Re: newb questions

Postby Lefty » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:54 am

well then this game has a serious problem/flaw. there are no resources for a newb to buy at several ports at the same time. i see no reason to play this game if the pirates who started long ago can manipulate the market buy buying up all of the resources ports are selling.if you look at port gossip you can see who is taking all the resources. and i dont stand much of a chance against 1000-2000 ships from each pirate trading .even when a port gets restocked, it seems to be empty before i can even set up a trade route.no way for me to get trade , never mind ships to pirate with.. not much fun with the advantage older players have. just my opinion. keep up the work on the game. i wish you all luck
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Re: newb questions

Postby Captain Jack » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:32 pm

Lefty wrote:well then this game has a serious problem/flaw. there are no resources for a newb to buy at several ports at the same time. i see no reason to play this game if the pirates who started long ago can manipulate the market buy buying up all of the resources ports are selling.if you look at port gossip you can see who is taking all the resources. and i dont stand much of a chance against 1000-2000 ships from each pirate trading .even when a port gets restocked, it seems to be empty before i can even set up a trade route.no way for me to get trade , never mind ships to pirate with.. not much fun with the advantage older players have. just my opinion. keep up the work on the game. i wish you all luck



The resources production rate is always relevant to the number of crew hired. This means that the same sortage will always exist for all players. This means that the problem you face is the same that a top player faces.

In fact, the particular mechanism helps new and small players as such a player has more versatility where to send his ships. It is easy for you to change 2 or 3 trading fleets to the port that still has resources. Instead, a big player cannot do it as he has 20 or more fleets. He is more probable to lose 1 or 2 trips to empty cargo hold till the ports get restocked. Or he could change his fleets to ports that do not seem to ever run out of resources, leaving the "good" ports for the new players ;)

Eventually, you can always choose to use other ports who are abudant in resources. There are such ports right now.

I think you misjudged it a bit. Let me know of what you think.
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Re: newb questions

Postby Black sparrow » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:39 pm

Lefty wrote:well then this game has a serious problem/flaw. there are no resources for a newb to buy at several ports at the same time. i see no reason to play this game if the pirates who started long ago can manipulate the market buy buying up all of the resources ports are selling.if you look at port gossip you can see who is taking all the resources. and i dont stand much of a chance against 1000-2000 ships from each pirate trading .even when a port gets restocked, it seems to be empty before i can even set up a trade route.no way for me to get trade , never mind ships to pirate with.. not much fun with the advantage older players have. just my opinion. keep up the work on the game. i wish you all luck


Just get a warehouse in each port. In this way you will be able to review availability and prices in each port through Active Ports link in market section.

There are few ports (the most profitable ones) that run out of resources as it is now and they do not constantly run out of resources. Even if they run out, this happens the last few hours of the day. For example, currently they are ALL FULL and there are only 6 hours away from the restock. So what you claim is not even true.

You cannot buy all the port resources. Only with team work this would be possible and the only reason to do so would be to hurt the trade routes of a specific player who primarily uses one port.

Personally I would like to see further reduce in productivity so that heavily used ports always run out of resources. This would help balance the game against already strong players that rely on trading.

Still, we all await for the voodoo cards which are supposed to mess with issues such as this, so I am reserving these ideas for after the system release.
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Re: newb questions

Postby Lefty » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:43 am

big problem. im only getting a few trades before ports are empty again. maybe its my time frame. im finding many empty ports.kanoni,st martins, regis, gorum, vaasburg, tortuga. only 4 of the ports i have wharehouses in do have goods. i dont have wharehouses at all yet. still investigating. right now at 6:42 pm. my time :?:
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Re: newb questions

Postby Black sparrow » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:02 pm

Lefty wrote:big problem. im only getting a few trades before ports are empty again. maybe its my time frame. im finding many empty ports.kanoni,st martins, regis, gorum, vaasburg, tortuga. only 4 of the ports i have wharehouses in do have goods. i dont have wharehouses at all yet. still investigating. right now at 6:42 pm. my time :?:


At the market page, there is a timer which shows how much time left for restock.
Right now for me, there are 5 hours left.

I happen to have warehouses in most ports (15 out of 21) and all are full right now.

I suggest you get warehouses in all ports and then use the active ports page to see where you will launch your trade routes.
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Re: newb questions

Postby Captain Jack » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:27 pm

There was a problem with the server time which had an impact on time the maintenance took place. We synchronized it now with the in-game timers (this means that update is now at 20:00 GMT as originally planned - 22:00 Game time). We will carefully revise the availability to all ports. We want to make sure that there won't be too many hours where the ports will be without resources. If it is one or two ports it is okay.
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Re: newb questions

Postby Lefty » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:06 am

Im not crazy..I knew something was weird .Lol. :D
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Re: newb questions

Postby Captain Jack » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:02 pm

Lefty wrote:Im not crazy..I knew something was weird .Lol. :D


We have increased production by 20 000 for each port. Now the formula for production is:

Port Production = Total Number of crew hired + 30 000

The new production will start from today and we will continue to review this. Our plan is to indeed have ports run out of resources but only a limited number.

However, still, with the new yesterday update to max and minimum profits, it would be more of a player's choice of where to send his trading routes. There are still ports with millions of resources when there are ports with no resources at all. This shows that generally the production formula is okay. If all ports were empty, then it would be wrong.

We will again revise. Eventually we will connect production to port population AND total number of crew hired.

The reason we always want it to be relevant to number of crew hired, is because this is a way to keep it relevant to total number of players and general activity. What population will mostly affect is not the total number of resources affected but the distrivution among the ports. Expect news on this soon.
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Re: newb questions

Postby Lefty » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:45 pm

Update to my last few posts. I have indeed found the randomness of the cities that get low on stock. Spent a few weeks investigating all the cities and their goods. Seems the weekends have more cities low on stocked goods, maybe due to more people online??? Will be getting rid of my conspiracy theories of pirates who control the market. Thanks for all the feedback. So far I am just trading, gathering my wealth, expanding my fleets. Is there a limit on fleets? (I would think not). When I am ready to pirate, is there a thread available with tips? :P
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Re: newb questions

Postby Hellfire » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:16 pm

Oh, those aren't conspiracy's, The top 10's megafleets tend to easily drain a port of resources if multiple overlap, or if an extremely large one is completely stationed between two ports.
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