TRUMP 2020!

[Leo]

Oh, what a surprise, you ignore all the points that matter again. Much easier to ignore the fact of all the things Obama-Biden did during their eight years isn't it?

And again- a slip of the tongue is one thing, forgetting who you are running against or what office you are going for is another.

I think what Obama and Joe Biden did that you are referring to IS important. I think those things did not have ideal outcomes. And by all means they were not all that great. Obama was a pretty mediocre president for what it's worth.

Still hundreds of times better than Trump. Doesn't matter that "Obama built the cages". Trump used them. He also explicitly refused to fix the situation at the border where kids are being separated from their parents, and also refused to fix that 5 year old children are forced to defend themselves in immigration court.

Just one thing to add quick:

Has not yet been confirmed, but it came from a republican that supports Trump, so I believe it.

According to the Georgia secretary of state, Lindsey Graham during a phone call had asked him to throw away some Biden ballots.

Just sayin'.

[Dmanwuzhere]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC8zv416gCI

[Meliva]

So you find that starting a horrible action, is 100 times better then someone who doesn't fix said action? So if Hitler, who started many horrible things was replaced by someone named Johnny, who decided not to stop it but focus on other things, that Johnny is 100 times worst then hitler?

Have you considered that Trump had other things he preferred to focus on to fix-you know, like some of the bad deals we had with foreign nations? Not to mention how the democrats did everything in their power to impede him? They literally tried to have him impeached, and even conisdered impeachment as a tool to keep Amy Barret out of the supreme court.

Trump had a lot of things to deal with, I wouldn't be surprised if fixing the border cages that Obama made was not top of the list. But yeah, go ahead and say trump is 100 times worst even though he didn't start that kind of cruelty. Talk about hypocritical.

[Mack]

In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 In 2012, a total of 2,543,279 deaths

what I'm noticing is there is no steady number it jumps up and down dramatically Through The Years every year this does not seem abnormal to me this year is a little on the high side but not dramatically High

still digging thats a lot of numbers and not enough free time

well it only at 2.1 mil so far this year so.... and that wasnt super easy to find

[The Lamb]

Oh, what a surprise, you ignore all the points that matter again. Much easier to ignore the fact of all the things Obama-Biden did during their eight years isn't it?

And again- a slip of the tongue is one thing, forgetting who you are running against or what office you are going for is another.

I think what Obama and Joe Biden did that you are referring to IS important. I think those things did not have ideal outcomes. And by all means they were not all that great. Obama was a pretty mediocre president for what it's worth.

He also explicitly refused to fix the situation at the border where kids are being separated from their parents, and also refused to fix that 5 year old children are forced to defend themselves in immigration court.

Blue, four quick questions and please please please answer them logically with yes or no answers.
1. What happens to American Kids when their parents go to jail or prison for breaking the law, do the kids go with them?
- If no, your separating kids from their parents, if yes your just mean to subject kids to that.

2. Should the children of parents in prison be in prison with their parents?
- If no, your separating kids from their parents, if yes your just mean to subject kids to that.

3. Are people who cross our boarders illegally breaking the law?
- If yes, then they are subject to American Laws just as Americans are, if no, then you need to learn the law

4. Should illegal aliens get treatment that is better than American Citizens?
- If no, then you have to seperate the kids from the adults in Jail for breaking the law, if yes then I really hope you wake up one day

I would hope you wouldn't want to see kids in general population, and the law is clear about juveniles in adult facilities. Im not sure why you think Trump doing what Obama and the law say to do is worse because just because its Trump.

[Lachlan]

well if you had a plexiglass co. mask making co. Hand sanitizer co. or refrigerated truck co. and so on. those are all making good money from this

Mack it isn't all about money, humans have kindness too. You said Influenza had more deaths this year by 30k but that is because it had a head start. Influenza is a older disease than Covid and I'm pretty sure effects the same amount of people each year whilst Covid is a new disease that has not established itself everywhere like Influenza has. Covid also started from a lower amount of infected people as well and probably has not reached it's peak yet whilst Influenza likely has.

4 people out of the millions of cases worldwide have contracted covid twice that cant be said about the flu....... ever


politics is always about money when politicians are at the wheel
find a situation you are not part of and in which you have no bias
say for instance canadas we charity controversy then you can see how things tie in
or maybe the aga khan scandal
or the ets scandal
its in every government that utilizes politicians
and while trump has a political party thats only because you have to claim one to have a good chance of running and winning although he seems more of a right winger to me but i know he has not always done that but despite some of his immaturity the right is accredited to those who have reached maturity lol
go study up on justin trudeau and you will get an idea of how biden and many other politicians on both sides work

yeah well a bunch of politicians who have gotten it around the world so some aren't there for the money and are personally affected by it

[Lachlan]

So you find that starting a horrible action, is 100 times better then someone who doesn't fix said action? So if Hitler, who started many horrible things was replaced by someone named Johnny, who decided not to stop it but focus on other things, that Johnny is 100 times worst then hitler?

Have you considered that Trump had other things he preferred to focus on to fix-you know, like some of the bad deals we had with foreign nations? Not to mention how the democrats did everything in their power to impede him? They literally tried to have him impeached, and even conisdered impeachment as a tool to keep Amy Barret out of the supreme court.

Trump had a lot of things to deal with, I wouldn't be surprised if fixing the border cages that Obama made was not top of the list. But yeah, go ahead and say trump is 100 times worst even though he didn't start that kind of cruelty. Talk about hypocritical.

hey Meliva you didn't answer my previous question, I would like to know if most of my points are right or not, it's on page 185

[Meliva]

hey Meliva you didn't answer my previous question, I would like to know if most of my points are right or not, it's on page 185

Meliva haven't drone strikes always killed a few innocent people each time? And didn't Obama start to withdraw and reduce numbers of troops in the middle East? Also in Obama's first term didn't he have to deal with all the Middle East wars the previous President started so wouldn't it take him time to scale down US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan and leave behind a semi stable country instead of just yeeting your troops out of their and leaving those countries to collapse and be overrun by terrorists again? Also I'm pretty sure you still have a few troops there training the Iraqi and Afghan army and stuff. Finally Obama came into power just after the GFC so he had a weaker economy to work with?

For your first, that depends on what you do or do not shoot. Firing drone strikes at restaurants like he did which killed an American citizen, are very much more likely to kill innocent people then a drone strike on a single vehicle with an Iran general in it.

Obama didn't do crap scaling down our presence in the middle east. He made things worse. The exact OPPOSITE of what he promised to do. Yes, it takes time to pull out, and more time to pull out and not leave a mess, but he didn't even start, he just made things worse.

Yes, we do have some troops over there still-training other troops. Trump at least started taking folks home, and is trying to make them self sustaining without us and put peace agreements in place. Also, yes he came into a weak economy, doesn't change the fact Trump did a better job in 4 years for our economy then him in 8. Well until covid mucked things up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv1aiBLdfNI

This video does a pretty good job talking about some of the big problems of Obama's presidency and other points.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Mack it isn't all about money, humans have kindness too. You said Influenza had more deaths this year by 30k but that is because it had a head start. Influenza is a older disease than Covid and I'm pretty sure effects the same amount of people each year whilst Covid is a new disease that has not established itself everywhere like Influenza has. Covid also started from a lower amount of infected people as well and probably has not reached it's peak yet whilst Influenza likely has.

4 people out of the millions of cases worldwide have contracted covid twice that cant be said about the flu....... ever


politics is always about money when politicians are at the wheel
find a situation you are not part of and in which you have no bias
say for instance canadas we charity controversy then you can see how things tie in
or maybe the aga khan scandal
or the ets scandal
its in every government that utilizes politicians
and while trump has a political party thats only because you have to claim one to have a good chance of running and winning although he seems more of a right winger to me but i know he has not always done that but despite some of his immaturity the right is accredited to those who have reached maturity lol
go study up on justin trudeau and you will get an idea of how biden and many other politicians on both sides work

yeah well a bunch of politicians who have gotten it around the world so some aren't there for the money and are personally affected by it

pretty basic talking point
now name the politicians who arent doing it for money
the great thing about trump is he was doing it for the fame and hes pretty patriotic
take biden a public servant all his life turned multi millionaire by selling out his country and made policies that hurt americans
trump has lost money while in office and will lose a tad more but is still a billionaire
he likes putting his name on everything and he left it in a spot it can never be erased (us history) his personal mission was accomplished
and his policies were by and large for the people and they benefitted minorities poor folks and rich alike
he introduced 1 policy i hate and several i dislike but when measured by totality he did an awesome job imagine what
he could have accomplished if the left would have embraced him he did so much with creativity in going around the opposition
the left made sure to set the future standard to make it a partisan brawl and non acceptance if the pres isnt in your party

[Lachlan]

4 people out of the millions of cases worldwide have contracted covid twice that cant be said about the flu....... ever


politics is always about money when politicians are at the wheel
find a situation you are not part of and in which you have no bias
say for instance canadas we charity controversy then you can see how things tie in
or maybe the aga khan scandal
or the ets scandal
its in every government that utilizes politicians
and while trump has a political party thats only because you have to claim one to have a good chance of running and winning although he seems more of a right winger to me but i know he has not always done that but despite some of his immaturity the right is accredited to those who have reached maturity lol
go study up on justin trudeau and you will get an idea of how biden and many other politicians on both sides work

yeah well a bunch of politicians who have gotten it around the world so some aren't there for the money and are personally affected by it

pretty basic talking point
now name the politicians who arent doing it for money
the great thing about trump is he was doing it for the fame and hes pretty patriotic
take biden a public servant all his life turned multi millionaire by selling out his country and made policies that hurt americans
trump has lost money while in office and will lose a tad more but is still a billionaire
he likes putting his name on everything and he left it in a spot it can never be erased (us history) his personal mission was accomplished
and his policies were by and large for the people and they benefitted minorities poor folks and rich alike
he introduced 1 policy i hate and several i dislike but when measured by totality he did an awesome job imagine what
he could have accomplished if the left would have embraced him he did so much with creativity in going around the opposition
the left made sure to set the future standard to make it a partisan brawl and non acceptance if the pres isnt in your party

well I don't know many politician but local politicians and also younger politicians tend to care more about their community than politics but the older politicians are in power and hold all the power so the younger low level politicians can do nothing. Maybe Boris Johnson because he got the CoronaVirus and had to recover for quite a bit. I dunno many politicians