TRUMP 2020!

[William one eye]

Congressional split vote gives more voice per individual voter.
It gives more reason to go vote because your vote may have more effect.

Ranked choice voting would allow for 3rd party candidates to potentially win elections.

The combination gives many more voices the chance to be heard while still making state voices important also.

[Meliva]

Do you hope he wins because you want him to stay in office or because you think that he actually SHOULD stay as president? It doesn't take half a brain to figure out that what he is attempting is undemocratic and unconstitutional.

By the way since you have brought up the thing about Biden reading from a teleprompter, it may interest you to know that Trump himself reads from a teleprompter, and is bad at it!

Here's a good compilation to show his failures:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-29I6Ia8Xmc

And that doesn't even mention when he said "acomplimenshades" during a public address, only shortly after he over pronounced the word "tolerated" so that it sounded like he was singing. Also leaves out when he called Yosemite "Yo-semite".

But who cares? Biden clearly is suffering from extreme mental disorders that's why he reads from a teleprompter (btw all politicians read from teleprompters).

First off If he wins the court cases then that proves fraud happened and that Biden won an rigged election-which is the exact opposite of democratic. If the court cases lose, or not enough fraud is revealed to prove it made a difference and he get's elected fine. Won't be happy with him as president but unlike many of the idiots on your side I don't intend to burn down any buildings, or kill anyone just because I'm not happy with the result. Come back to me when you're actually willing to condemn your side for the violent actions they took every time they got upset, before you try to lecture anyone about anything moral.

I want Trump to be president because he's done a much better job, then Biden did when he worked under Obama. Children in Cages? Started under Obama. Drone strikes killing innocent people? Obama. Getting more involved in the middle east wars? Obama said he'd take us out. Didn't and used drone strikes to kill innocent people. Oh but Trump killing a LITERAL TERRORIST is such a horrible thing to do right? Disgusting hypocrites. Should be ashamed. Although, Suppose it isn't entirely your fault. You were just a child when all that happened. I also doubt you ever bothered to look for any misdeeds Obama or Biden did, because, hey, why should you, orange man bad, that's what you were taught right? I mean, He made peace deals in the middle east! We should go back to what Obama-Biden were doing and bombing them. After all, that's what you voted for. Just know, if we go back to drone strikes, some of that blood will be on your hands-we saw what they did for 8 years, and folks still wanted to go back to it. So you better hope, we don't.

[The Lamb]

It's unfortunate the USA democratic system does not lend itself easily to adopting more political parties.
There is obviously a need for the people to express themselves in ways that the 2 party system will not allow.


The issues the USA faces could lessen the democratic burden by the people even if the democrat and republican parties were split in half so the extremes and the middle ground could be represented as per the populations wants. After all, that is the heart of democracy-government for the people by the people.

Unfortunately there is not the political will for those in charge to do something that would allow the splitting of power.
It brings to mind the expression "Power corrupts and total power corrupts totally".

Well we are a Constitutional Democratic Republic, where we have 50 sovereign states that hold democratic elections for local laws and governments but send elected officials to vote for the states in the federal government.

We do have different parties as well, "The Democratic Party and the Republican Party are the most powerful. Yet other parties, such as the Reform, Libertarian, Socialist, Natural Law, Constitution, and Green Parties can promote candidates in a presidential election."

Its just most of the population fall more inline with the major parties and some other parties allign themselves to the majors as well. Like Constitution and libertarians align more with republicans. As a matter of fact, im not even sure the socialist party is really there anymore. No one with half a brain bought what they were selling so they have been infiltrating the Dem party for years with the communist crapoganda Democratic Socialism i believe they reframed it. You can call a turd sandwich a T bone steak, your still eating sh$t

And before blue stash bigote jumps in, i know i know, no one in the history of mankind has ever done it right before... the smartest people in the world throughout history thought it was a bad idea, but your sociology teacher and that twitter feed of morons has it all figured out to really get it right next time

Its like learning politics from Snapple caps

[Stan Rogers]

I don't think your system allows anything but a democrat or republican to sit in the big chair though? I could be wrong but it seems the official opposition has forever been one or the other.
Yea, there is guys like Rand Paul who claim libertarian or AOC who claim social democracy but in the end, they are merely influence factors and never get a shot at sitting behind the resolute desk where much of the power resides.

[The Lamb]

I don't think your system allows anything but a democrat or republican to sit in the big chair though? I could be wrong but it seems the official opposition has forever been one or the other.
Yea, there is guys like Rand Paul who claim libertarian or AOC who claim social democracy but in the end, they are merely influence factors and never get a shot at sitting behind the resolute desk where much of the power resides.

True, but i think thats because more Americans are just left or right of center.

[Stan Rogers]

I don't think your system allows anything but a democrat or republican to sit in the big chair though? I could be wrong but it seems the official opposition has forever been one or the other.
Yea, there is guys like Rand Paul who claim libertarian or AOC who claim social democracy but in the end, they are merely influence factors and never get a shot at sitting behind the resolute desk where much of the power resides.

True, but i think thats because more Americans are just left or right of center.

I think it results in the common citizen having to hold their nose to vote.
It also results in more apathy in the general citizenry that manifests itself in fewer voter turnout.

This was not the case in this election as both sides turned out in record numbers but that in itself is unusual as this cycle was a record but again, I think there was a lot of nose holding.

[Lachlan]

well if you had a plexiglass co. mask making co. Hand sanitizer co. or refrigerated truck co. and so on. those are all making good money from this

Mack it isn't all about money, humans have kindness too. You said Influenza had more deaths this year by 30k but that is because it had a head start. Influenza is a older disease than Covid and I'm pretty sure effects the same amount of people each year whilst Covid is a new disease that has not established itself everywhere like Influenza has. Covid also started from a lower amount of infected people as well and probably has not reached it's peak yet whilst Influenza likely has.

[Lachlan]

Do you hope he wins because you want him to stay in office or because you think that he actually SHOULD stay as president? It doesn't take half a brain to figure out that what he is attempting is undemocratic and unconstitutional.

By the way since you have brought up the thing about Biden reading from a teleprompter, it may interest you to know that Trump himself reads from a teleprompter, and is bad at it!

Here's a good compilation to show his failures:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-29I6Ia8Xmc

And that doesn't even mention when he said "acomplimenshades" during a public address, only shortly after he over pronounced the word "tolerated" so that it sounded like he was singing. Also leaves out when he called Yosemite "Yo-semite".

But who cares? Biden clearly is suffering from extreme mental disorders that's why he reads from a teleprompter (btw all politicians read from teleprompters).

First off If he wins the court cases then that proves fraud happened and that Biden won an rigged election-which is the exact opposite of democratic. If the court cases lose, or not enough fraud is revealed to prove it made a difference and he get's elected fine. Won't be happy with him as president but unlike many of the idiots on your side I don't intend to burn down any buildings, or kill anyone just because I'm not happy with the result. Come back to me when you're actually willing to condemn your side for the violent actions they took every time they got upset, before you try to lecture anyone about anything moral.

I want Trump to be president because he's done a much better job, then Biden did when he worked under Obama. Children in Cages? Started under Obama. Drone strikes killing innocent people? Obama. Getting more involved in the middle east wars? Obama said he'd take us out. Didn't and used drone strikes to kill innocent people. Oh but Trump killing a LITERAL TERRORIST is such a horrible thing to do right? Disgusting hypocrites. Should be ashamed. Although, Suppose it isn't entirely your fault. You were just a child when all that happened. I also doubt you ever bothered to look for any misdeeds Obama or Biden did, because, hey, why should you, orange man bad, that's what you were taught right? I mean, He made peace deals in the middle east! We should go back to what Obama-Biden were doing and bombing them. After all, that's what you voted for. Just know, if we go back to drone strikes, some of that blood will be on your hands-we saw what they did for 8 years, and folks still wanted to go back to it. So you better hope, we don't.

Meliva haven't drone strikes always killed a few innocent people each time? And didn't Obama start to withdraw and reduce numbers of troops in the middle East? Also in Obama's first term didn't he have to deal with all the Middle East wars the previous President started so wouldn't it take him time to scale down US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan and leave behind a semi stable country instead of just yeeting your troops out of their and leaving those countries to collapse and be overrun by terrorists again? Also I'm pretty sure you still have a few troops there training the Iraqi and Afghan army and stuff. Finally Obama came into power just after the GFC so he had a weaker economy to work with?

[Most Lee Harmless]

Trump did not start the current peace process in the Middle East. The recent agreements made have been in the pipeline for years. He has certainly stirred the pot by recognising Jerusalem entire as the Israeli capital, which has pleased some and pissed off others as is generally the case in that region.

The Iran situation goes back decades, it predates the fall of the Shah. Syria likewise is no recent problem. Iraq did not happen because of Kuwait. Saddam was a ferkwit long before that but he was our ferkwit in the dispute with Iran so we kept feeding him. Afghanistan, ask Queen Victoria, nobody has gone in there and come out again unscathed.

So, if you wish to blame any administration for the current clusterferk that is the Middle East... take your pick all the way back to WW1 and even before that.

Presidents take ownership of all the issues existing when they take their oath. More than a few will not be to their political or ethical taste but still have to be dealt with as they are. Previous administrations actions can not be unravelled or over-turned overnight. Even if you announce a pull-out from Somewherestan it takes months if not years to unwind the military logistics train and remove yourself. Meanwhile you are still there having to deal with the same issues with the same tools as before.
In practical terms no President does much more than keep the plates spinning. How they present their successes or failures defines their term of office. Which is not the same as those successes or failures being solely due to their actions or decisions.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Trump did not start the current peace process in the Middle East. The recent agreements made have been in the pipeline for years. He has certainly stirred the pot by recognising Jerusalem entire as the Israeli capital, which has pleased some and pissed off others as is generally the case in that region.

The Iran situation goes back decades, it predates the fall of the Shah. Syria likewise is no recent problem. Iraq did not happen because of Kuwait. Saddam was a ferkwit long before that but he was our ferkwit in the dispute with Iran so we kept feeding him. Afghanistan, ask Queen Victoria, nobody has gone in there and come out again unscathed.

So, if you wish to blame any administration for the current clusterferk that is the Middle East... take your pick all the way back to WW1 and even before that.

Presidents take ownership of all the issues existing when they take their oath. More than a few will not be to their political or ethical taste but still have to be dealt with as they are. Previous administrations actions can not be unravelled or over-turned overnight. Even if you announce a pull-out from Somewherestan it takes months if not years to unwind the military logistics train and remove yourself. Meanwhile you are still there having to deal with the same issues with the same tools as before.
In practical terms no President does much more than keep the plates spinning. How they present their successes or failures defines their term of office. Which is not the same as those successes or failures being solely due to their actions or decisions.

been in the pipeline for years = the politicians as they attempted peace talks were not happy with the lack of funds and support they could milk out of it so interest was lost and the collateral damage was the peace deal

factories coming back to the us to get tax breaks as long as they built in certain zones which benefits predominately poor or targets minority neighborhoods has probably been in the pipeline for years too huh lol sure thing buddy i believe you