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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Leo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:56 pm

Wow, this is nice.

I agree, more money should be put into education, although in an ideal world more money would be put into EVERYTHING :D

When you say schools need to have better security, what do you mean? Like armed security guards? Metal detectors at the entrance?

I agree, Marijuana does not need to be illegal and we are wasting money putting people in prison for doing it. My one concern is that marijuana is getting stronger and stronger, and with it it is becoming more of a hazard. If we legalized it and put regulations on it, the government would be able to make sure that people weren't receiving marijuana so strong that it could kill them. Hey, maybe some of that tax money could go towards better healthcare? I don't know.

Good to know that you have been talking with people that you don't agree with, it's a good life skill. It's surprising to me that even people who are liberal will support Trump, like Will, and vise versa. Though I shouldn't be surprised, people do strange and unpredictable things all the time.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:07 pm

Security could be implemented in several ways, depending on what is or is not viable in certain locations and what the school and the parents do or do not want. A good fence with a gate that only opens during specific hours is one option-another would be perhaps making a program, where older or less fit or injured officers could be stationed at schools-they wouldn't need to worry about chasing down anybody, only staying in a security booth, and keeping an eye out for any suspicious activity. Armed security guards is another option. Largely, would be up to the school and parents to decide what they want to spend money on. I'm not on board with the idea of having teachers be armed, but I like the idea of having a cop or 2 stationed at schools. This could also be an opportunity to help teach kids that cops, are at the end of the day public servants who are meant to protect and keep the community safe.

Though security would be less of a priority then focusing money and effort into evaluating student well being, and cracking down on bullying. As helping out those issues would make shootings less common.

With government regulations marijuana would be a lot safer, less crimes, and a nice bit of extra income.

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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Leo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:23 pm

I don't think that guns have any place in schools. I'm all for security guards in school, just please don't give them firearms. That is an accident waiting to happen. Honestly we can secure schools all we want, but we should also put more restrictions on guns (like reducing the maximum legal capacity of magazines, making assault weapons only be given to high-priority law enforcement like SWAT). While as I mentioned before the cause of shootings is not the number of guns that we have, but a much harder problem to solve, we can still put heavy restrictions on firearms to minimize the amount of damage that can be done. It won't prevent them from happening, but it will make them a whole lot less worse.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:33 pm

most gun crimes are done by illegally obtained guns. All the laws in the world won't matter, because the laws were not being obeyed in the first place.

It's like if you put up a sign saying no swimming in a lake. You notice some kids read the sign, then proceed to swim in the lake. Putting up another sign, won't make a difference-the kids weren't listening to the first sign, why would a second one change anything?

Also think about it like this. If no one has a gun at a school, and someone showed up with one-how many people do you suppose he could kill before police showed up? Now, if a cop was already stationed there, he would be there in seconds at the fastest, to a few minutes at the latest-and all it would take is one well aimed shot to keep anyone else from dying.

It also is not an accident waiting to happen-just ensure the kids are taught gun safety, and I would recommend having 2 guards per school-one who would patrol around, hang with the kids and be social, while keeping an eye out for trouble-with no firearm, while the other would monitor things in a security room and have a firearm or 2 in a secure location-locked cabinent, drawer, etc.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Argo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:11 pm

Blue mustache wrote:Also, All Lives DO NOT Matter.

Nazi sympathizer/neo nazi lives don't matter
Pedophile lives don't matter
mass shooter lives don't matter
Serial killer lives don't matter
Racist lives don't matter
Bigot lives don't matter
Terrorist lives don't matter


So...Blue...either life matters or it doesn't. I've said it before - you cant be a little bit pregnant . You either are or you are not.
One second you say everyone has the right to express themselves and voice their opinion without getting hurt, that they matter and then in the next breath you say these peoples' lives don't matter?
Cant you see it?


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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:27 pm

blue has said many hypocritical things, why does that surprise you :D.

I won't lie though- don't care for most of the folks he listed-though I wouldn't advocate violence or death on them- criminals should be tried in a court of law, and given a fair trial before being punsihed. In some cases, I would argue for the death penalty, in other's life in jail or a long sentence.

Though, I do disagree with Racist, Bigot and Nazi Symphathizer lives not mattering. Now I don't agree with their views, but you are free to think and believe whatever the hell you want, so long as you don't commit any crimes or try to force your views on other's.

I won't lie, my father had a few racist tendencies-I'd remind him he shouldn't think those things and he'd apologize and admit I was right. All in all though, he was a very loving and caring father-he just grew up in a time when thoughts like that were more or less accepted. He never went out and insulted anyone, or attacked them. He just had some nasty beliefs. So for someone to tell me that because he had some racist tendencies that his life didn't matter is honestly rather insulting.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Argo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:37 pm

On all points- couldn't agree with you more Mel.
It's not that I'm surprised Blue can be hypocritical - what surprises me is he cant see it when he has written it himself! More than once. Lol

I do think Blue you are intelligent but as you are still at school, so you are still young - your arrogance and disrespect to those who have a more life experience, study, community and political involvement etc and knowledge is also surprising.

Where do you get this arrogance at such a tender age? I'm not saying young isn't smart - it is the youth who often teach the world - but the attitude is poor - I believe you make good arguments and debating with those here who are very skilled in that area will only help to make you better at it -
If you can step down off your horse and actually listen to what is being said. It seems you are so determined to be right that it is costing you something far more valuable.

Hey just my opinion - does my life still matter?
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Mack » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:40 pm

oh man i cant stop laughing weed so strong it kills you oh my god thats great stuff....

you think what you want ill say it like it is. to get a job and succeed in life you first have to want to, and the most of those unemployed do not want to work they want a communist government to support them because they were tought that thats their right.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Argo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:46 pm

haha...Killer Weed! I've heard it called that but I don't think anybody died...

Yes Mack - How did we create such an 'entitled' generation - too much, too soon, too easy ?
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:50 pm

A hard lesson, that I think many do not learn is that ultimately-life doesn't owe any of us jack. Likewise, no one you meet as you live your life owes you jack. Ultimately, none of us choose the vast majority of things that affect our lives. None of us chose our skin color, place of birth, family, time of birth etc. What everyone needs to remember is that despite so many things being outside of your control, there is one thing you do have control of-yourself. So, make the best out of whatever situation you're in, and try to thrive. If you can make some good friends and maybe leave the world a better place then when you entered, good on you. If not, well hopefully you at least tried to live a full and happy life.
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