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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Leo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:56 pm

Yeah, they don't. You are right. However, how about "Black Lives Matter Too" because All Lives Matter has already been designated by an organization that is, unfortunately, that of white supremacists.

That's kinda ironic seeing that their lives don't matter.

While at first "All lives matter" seems like a good thing to say, it is often taken the wrong way, so be very careful how you use it. Best just stick to not saying anything at all.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:57 pm

Wasn't aware there was an org with that name though it doesn't surprise me. Unlike you, I merely said what should be a common sense fact. All lives matter. Doesn't matter if you're black, white, blue, purple, jew, catholic, etc. You should not be unfairly treated. Anyone who forces folks to do things, or does evil act's should be punished.

Also pretty hilarious that the person who is fine with innocent folks dying, businesses being destroyed and other heinous acts if it's for a good cause is telling anyone to watch their words. Once again blue-take your own advice before you try lecturing other's.

Also, you're statement on universal healthcare not forcing folks to help literally contradicted itself. "providing care for those who can't afford it, at the expense of taxpayers" So in other words, tax payers have to pay an extra tax, to give healthcare for people they probably don't even know? Can they have the option to opt out of that tax? If the answer to that is No, then guess what, you are forcing them to give their money to help other's.

Do you have any idea how much of a tax there would need to be to cover healthcare for EVERY american? It would not be barely noticable. To even think that is shockingly naive.

Also, if a person is guilty of a crime, they need to be tried in a fair court, and given a fair punishment. YOU do not get to decide they should just be killed or die. That is tyrannical.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby DezNutz » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:57 pm

Blue mustache wrote:Yeah, they don't. You are right. However, how about "Black Lives Matter Too" because All Lives Matter has already been designated by an organization that is, unfortunately, that of white supremacists.



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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Leo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:00 pm

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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:06 pm

Once more, no real rebuttals, just more opinions. Some folks might find it disrespectful. Some might not. Personally I find it disrespectful to say black lives matter, while that group is chanting for the death of cops, and committing violent crimes. Do the people they hurt and kill not matter?

Does David Dorn, an elderly retired black cop life not matter? Apparently not. Didn't see any outrage over his death.

When you have facts and not feelings, and can actually refute what I'm saying, feel free to reply.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Leo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:07 pm

Why do you think that if black lives matter, everyone else's doesn't? That makes no sense at all. If I were to say "protein matters" that doesn't mean that I am anti-iron, potassium, vitamin, or any other mineral that is necessary for survival. It just means that I wan't people to understand that protein is important. Maybe that is because the people that I am saying it to are not getting enough protein. Who knows? The reason that it is called black lives matter and not all lives matter is because the people who started blm felt as if they were being treated like black lives didn't matter. Saying "all lives matter" sounds cool, but it does not tell you anything about who you are advocating for. "all lives" are not subject to 4x more police brutality then everyone else. If so, then everyone would be equal because that's how the world "all" works.

So, even if you do not like the organization, criticizing people for saying "black lives matter" portrays you as a racist, and I know that isn't how you want to be portrayed. It's your choice, of course.

BLM is not ordering protesters to chant about killing cops. That is the choice of the protesters.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:17 pm

And now we get to the part where you decide to just label your opponent as a racist. I swear, are folks like you secretly Pokémon or something? Cause it seems you only know how to do 4 moves.

Blame other's for problems.
Label opponents as racist/sexist/homophobic
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Use opinions, instead of facts.

I don't care what folks like you think of me. Anyone who supports killing innocent folks, destroying innocent businesses and other evil acts are in my opinion scum. I don't respect their opinion.

Also look at your words. BLM was started because they FELT they were being mistreated. Not they had facts and evidence. Felt. Once again, bring up sources if you're gonna make bold claims like black folk get 4 times more police brutality. Considering you literally lied to me about that couple being arrested earlier, your word is about as valuable as what's in my trash can. Actually, those empty soda cans could fetch some change. So less then that.

Also, as a leader of a movement, you have a voice and a responsibility to properly LEAD your movement. If I started a movement to let's say, help single mother's raise kids, and some of the folks in my movement started saying father's should be killed, I'm going to condemn those statements, and kick such folks out if they keep saying it. If I find out I'm in the miniority I'll step down and wash my hands of them. I won't stand side by side with killers, thieves and criminals.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Mack » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:21 pm

Blue mustache wrote:Yeah, they don't. You are right. However, how about "Black Lives Matter Too" because All Lives Matter has already been designated by an organization that is, unfortunately, that of white supremacists.

That's kinda ironic seeing that their lives don't matter.

While at first "All lives matter" seems like a good thing to say, it is often taken the wrong way, so be very careful how you use it. Best just stick to not saying anything at all.


Ill say All Lives Matter i dont care who says anything these are my words

i sure as hell hope all your family are stand up righteous people or they don't matter right
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Leo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:27 pm

Chill

I guess when I said "arrested" I meant charged. That was a mistake.

Sources? I've got plenty:
https://www.raceforward.org/videos/systemic-racism
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 343549002/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism
https://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action ... racism.pdf
https://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/2016 ... sm-is-real
https://www.statista.com/chart/21857/pe ... in-the-us/
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/20 ... e-of-color
https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

Shall I go on?

I mean you guys seem kinda like Pokemon too, to be honest. Your four moves?
-Tell people that their source isn't credible
-Say that their freedoms are being restricted
-Calling an idea communist
-Using whataboutism to brush past a point

You know what? BLM is probably so caught up dealing with ACTUAL problems that they don't have time to nitpick every single complaint that people might have.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Leo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:33 pm

Now, if you'd excuse me, I have some school work to do.
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