Expose from the USA

[PFH]

and dman/deluge is not IoM ....they are dman/deluge.

Obviously you do not see the obvious.

You hold IoM accountable for Their actions, then we can hold SKN accountable for yours.

The difference

How do you hit a low profile target ? You can hit my trade fleets I have 50+. My influence was targeted and my nation was threatened by d-man and his extortion. Don get silly with me.

Can you recall when I attacked isle of man unprovoked nationally for me? And accurately recall it for me?

D-man never could spit up anyone I targeted that was a newb. Can you tell thetruth or are you just the same as d-man?

Sure can. I can post my voodoo log that shows you casting a ton of props on me before I even joined in the conflict.

I believe props are port control voodoo, hence attacks on a nation.

I believe you bragged several times about your BD cast on IoM before you were SKN. Talk about low profile. We couldnt reciprocate at the time because you were not part of a port controlling nation. Now you are. Seems you have ALOT more coming based on your very own justification for attacking IoM as a nation.

Sure show your Vudu logs doesn't matter anyway because it's more than just one voodoo to log at stake here you idiot.

Can you recall what made me cast those props?

[sXs]

I dont hide behind undercover voodoo or hire others to do my bidding.

[Vane]

I dont hide behind undercover voodoo or hire others to do my bidding.

Your choice. Those options are here to make the game interesting and maybe not all but many utilize them as they should. The world itself is not without trickery, hired muscle, or espionage neither should a game based around an economical world. Thats half the fun. Empires rise and fall for reasons that may seem justified or not, fact is someone wanted it to for their own reasons and either makes it happen or not. And turns keep tickin.

[PFH]

So you wont recall what made me cast those props?

[sXs]

I tell you what clock, I will restore everything SKN lost because of my personal actions if you restore everything IoM lost because of yours.

[sXs]

I dont hide behind undercover voodoo or hire others to do my bidding.

Your choice. Those options are here to make the game interesting and maybe not all but many utilize them as they should. The world itself is not without trickery, hired muscle, or espionage neither should a game based around an economical world. Thats half the fun. Empires rise and fall for reasons that may seem justified or not, fact is someone wanted it to for their own reasons and either makes it happen or not. And turns keep tickin.

They do not make the game interesting. Those cards breed toxic play as Danik said.

There is no repercussion for casting them. No danger gained no risk at all.

The most toxic form of gameplay.

[Vane]

If thats your concern then creating a counter is the option, not eliminating them.

I would be all for a card that allows the caster to see the last 15-20 curses a player cast just like enlightened vision does for battles. Would mean players still need to do some investigation to reduce the suspect list then they can try an indepth investigation through that card.

[PFH]

I tell you what clock, I will restore everything SKN lost because of my personal actions if you restore everything IoM lost because of yours.

Alright. Let's have a talk and get this over with

My slack isn't working right now so PM's can work.

I'd be happy to get this arranged

If it would recall dmans casts as well, I'll repair my hired casts as well.

[sXs]

If thats your concern then creating a counter is the option, not eliminating them.

I would be all for a card that allows the caster to see the last 15-20 curses a player cast just like enlightened vision does for battles. Would mean players still need to do some investigation to reduce the suspect list then they can try an indepth investigation through that card.

It has been suggested and approved already. Ship based voodoo. Can not cast a port card unless you have a fleet in that port. That fleet gains danger. Each fleet only allowed to carry so many cards. So to cast 200 plus port cards would require having 40 5 ship fleets in that port. I believe those were the numbers proposed. Notification is still undercover but the ship pops on plunder boards.

[sXs]

I tell you what clock, I will restore everything SKN lost because of my personal actions if you restore everything IoM lost because of yours.

Alright. Let's have a talk and get this over with

My slack isn't working right now so PM's can work.

I'd be happy to get this arranged

If it would recall dmans casts as well, I'll repair my hired casts as well.

I was not responsible for dmans casts. only my own. I did not hire him or others to cast as you have done.