Declaration of War

[Rolando]

You could have just said your too much of a coward to fight. And don't tell us how to run our guild, the only thing you have recently succeed in, is running your guild into the deep. And all your former titles mean nothing, I 'll keep your ships, you keep the titles.

[Rolando]

To roll over and conscientiously object are entirely different things. If you truly want peace, the first thing you must do is admit you lost, and you are wrong. Until you can do that, your doomed. A real leader admits defeat, to lose with respect for your enemy is something you seem to lack. Perhaps that is why you have so many.

[Rolando]

Is it beyond you to take account for the actions of your guild and yourself? Remember you start wars when you want, they do not end when you wish.

[Raz Al Ghul]

Everyone has claimed that they did not cast voodoo on you, more so me you attacked me without provocation, I had not casted or attacked you or any fox member yet you casted on me and several others that had not to the best of my knowledge cast voodoo on you prior to your attacks, we were waiting for your attack because we knew you can't be trusted and would attack us before long as is your way, you proved us right and thus brought this on yourself and your guild, perhaps you should be more honest with your guild mates and tell them you attacked us first and caused this, juicy as already called for a surrender, but because of your past actions we do not trust you to talk peace for long, instead if anything you will attempt to distract us so you can attack again, until you are left with nothing we will not stop.

[Juicypotato]

I wonder what the best thing to duplicate is.

[Big Brother]

Hey, Rolando? Have you ever heard the saying, "Its not knowing when to fight, but when not to fight"?

This is a classic example of a time when fighting shouldn't happen. For these reasons, there is a big advantage to not fighting:

1. Neither side has gained anything (as Roi said)

2. Both sides have cast voodoo that neither side likes

3. We both have lost ships.

4. This is just one stupid rear-end war

5. Couldn't we both accomplish more if we weren't fighting each other

6. Rolando is taking the brunt of the workload (in voodoo) for PK, myself is taking the brunt of the workload (in voodoo) for Fox

7. This looks like a grudge match to me (not a war), between Fox and Rolando.

Anyway, why can't we just STOP and get along. Or are we just going to keep waving around our warriors and voodoo stacks until we have none?

[Spastic]

Hey, Rolando? Have you ever heard the saying, "Its not knowing when to fight, but when not to fight"?

This is a classic example of a time when fighting shouldn't happen. For these reasons, there is a big advantage to not fighting:

1. Neither side has gained anything (as Roi said)

2. Both sides have cast voodoo that neither side likes

3. We both have lost ships.

4. This is just one stupid rear-end war

5. Couldn't we both accomplish more if we weren't fighting each other

6. Rolando is taking the brunt of the workload (in voodoo) for PK, myself is taking the brunt of the workload (in voodoo) for Fox

7. This looks like a grudge match to me (not a war), between Fox and Rolando.

Anyway, why can't we just STOP and get along. Or are we just going to keep waving around our warriors and voodoo stacks until we have none?

Congratulations, you pretty much just described half the 'wars' in this game. The real question is why do people fight?

[Rolando]

1. "Neither side has gained anything." Untrue, when this started the PK had 85 million guild fame, now we are 100+, Many of us gained multiple warships. The PK has gained, sold , and passed out 2 MOW's, and dozens of other ships, from a conservative estimate Fox has lost nearly 5 times as much in gold, ships, and voodoo stolen.

2. Both sides have cast voodoo neither side likes. True, however we have done it much more effectively, and with greater effect in my opinion.

3. We both have lost ships. Yes, but you are by far the vast majority of said losses.

4. This is just one stupid rear-end war. I agree, once Roi surrenders and agree's to terms we can put this behind us.

5. Couldn't we both accomplish more if we weren't fighting each other. Indeed.

6. Rolando is taking the brunt of the workload (in voodoo) for PK, myself is taking the brunt of the workload (in voodoo) for Fox, Actually it is a team effort, much voodoo used was to help our membership and rebuild after battles, I just like using combat voodoo.

7. This looks like a grudge match to me (not a war), between Fox and Rolando. Actually I don't know most of Fox, just the leadership, trust me its a majority of PK that do not like your leadership, they are just too nice to tell you as much as I do.


I long for peace, however until we can reach a peace treaty that includes at least the public admission of guilt form Roi, reasonable repayment to those injured, and the complete and total cessation of hostilities against our allies and the PK, we are just wasting our breath. If you truly want peace, tell your leader to surrender.

[Rolando]

True, those who start wars do not want peace. However, we are at a critical moment, we have the first open dialogue without insults, yet, now you must choose between your guild and your point. Shall this be endless attrition because you do not wish to lose? I shall ignore the insults/compliments you paid me. If truly you want peace, real peace, you know what to do. The choice is yours.

[Swampy]

I love observing these exchanges from the sidelines. A few (relatively) neutral observations if I may....

1) If someone declares war they are simply giving you the courtesy of being able to surrender before the war begins. Or at the very least offering you a chance to surrender before the war continues, in whatever format.

2) A declaration of war does not need to be accepted. Its simply a statement, not a question. The only choice you have to respond is either to surrender or accept and commence a war.

3) It does seem to me that many of each of your guilds are likely uninterested in the war. It always the same individuals that discuss the war.

4) I misunderstand the need to bicker about who did what and when, if one party feels slighted by another and demands reparation and surrender or war, there is little point in arguing that it was their fault or they have lost more in previous battles or they don't really want peace, refer to point 2, these are your options, you are never going to persuade someone by bickering, they already declared war on you.