tmn and fox truce

[Achillies]

the following is a truce between fox and TMN(IMO) effective immediately ..
Me: 1.) no voodoo to be cast on tmn orIMO members ... nor members of TMN or IMO will cast voodoo on fox. 2) Our guilds are free to attack each other as the game and rule 1) allows.
RoiLeon: I also think that this truce needs a time limit, and a buffer period after that . grace period of 5days with no attacks ship to ship.
Me: then any attacks as allowed by game rules ship to ship.
Me: any voodoo to be used only after a limited player list is agreed to. then the war between said combatants is free for all no holds barred within preset time limit.
Me: so to restate no voodoo Period and no attacks ship to ship for 5 days. then we resume after 5 days ship to ship attacks and voodoo stays in your decks
notification shall be given at least 24 hrs proir to attacking said combatants.
ROILEON this is how the original document was to read if you agree to this then with repairations made to IMO we can be done with this whole attack on the imo deal.

Achillies

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[Roileon]

Achilles, stop trying to change the truce. Through negotiations, the truce was changed to where IMO was not included, and you agreed to the changed version of the truce, over 3 times. It's like your photoshopping the truce right now into your favor and we've already seen that we can't trust your word so stop trying. The truce still stands as no one has done anything to break it. You completely left out everything in between you posting the original version and me editing it into the version of IMO and going all the way to the end of the truce and messages I sent you a day after you agreed to the final version without IMO, which you posted in the forum roileon. Stop trying to lie and twist your way out of this. You can be pissed all you want, but Fox did not break the truce. You are bounded by your "word" and the final terms of the truce. This truce has shown Fox can show restraint, but it has also shown your attitude and the value of your "word". Prove to the world now, that you Achilles, are someone who is worth leading TMN, and someone worth respects. Follow the truce and your word as Fox has respected the truce.

[Roileon]

the following is a truce between fox and TMN effective immediately ..
Me: 1.) no voodoo to be cast on tmn members ... nor members of TMN will cast voodoo on fox. 2) Our guilds are free to attack each other as the game and rule 1) allows.
RoiLeon: I also think that this truce needs a time limit, and a buffer period after that . grace period of 5days with no attacks ship to ship.
Me: then any attacks as allowed by game rules ship to ship.
Me: any voodoo to be used only after a limited player list is agreed to. then the war between said combatants is free for all no holds barred within preset time limit.
Me: so to restate no voodoo Period and no attacks ship to ship for 5 days. then we resume after 5 days ship to ship attacks and voodoo stays in your decks
Me: is that correct
RoiLeon: Correct

Achillies

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This is the truce you posted at the beginning of this forum. We didn't break it. btw, ship to ship attacks can resume today

[Spastic]

Achilles, stop trying to change the truce. Through negotiations, the truce was changed to where IMO was not included, and you agreed to the changed version of the truce, over 3 times. It's like your photoshopping the truce right now into your favor and we've already seen that we can't trust your word so stop trying. The truce still stands as no one has done anything to break it. You completely left out everything in between you posting the original version and me editing it into the version of IMO and going all the way to the end of the truce and messages I sent you a day after you agreed to the final version without IMO, which you posted in the forum roileon. Stop trying to lie and twist your way out of this. You can be pissed all you want, but Fox did not break the truce. You are bounded by your "word" and the final terms of the truce. This truce has shown Fox can show restraint, but it has also shown your attitude and the value of your "word". Prove to the world now, that you Achilles, are someone who is worth leading TMN, and someone worth respects. Follow the truce and your word as Fox has respected the truce.

I recall the peace talk i witnessed that you said that you didnt attack imo and you never will or something along the lines of that. so....i think that makes you a hypocrite, i could be wrong tho. I can check my un-edited copy of the original talk. I also recall you saying that you agreed to imo being included but again i could be wrong. Tell me if want me to check

[Roileon]

Yes, please check! I completely forgot you were there, if you can copy and paste the ENTIRE conversation. I did say that I do not attack Bp because of SGT Blue, and I repeat that to everyone, again...

[Roileon]

Now we can set things straight. Thanks Spastic

[Roileon]

*Disclaimer: Certain parts of this were bolded and underlined. A question mark was also added.

Roileon as you pointed out the imo regrettably is not listed any where here in the truce. that was an oversight on my part. but as you well know that i made it clear in the begining of truce talks that the imo was to receive the same protection under the truce as TMN does. But you broke that truce ( ) yesterday by attacking Admiral black pants. YOU and juicylettuce casting voodoo on her.

You even said it yourself that IMO wasn't part of the truce! So, the part where I'm confused is, How did we break the truce (hence the ) if voodoo was cast on IMO, when IMO, as you said yourself,

not listed any where here in the truce

You've lost this argument, just get over it already.

[Spastic]

yea i checked, it appears that i was kinda wrong, and i apologise to you for that but here are the comments

Achillies: that should also in clude newbies from imo

RoiLeon: Fox doesn't attack newbies of IMO, are u sure that isn't Skyhawk/PK

Achillies: or members

Achillies: my bad

Achillies: you are right The newbies was PK

RoiLeon: ????????some sensitive info here that i dont think roi wants people to know about??? Sky had this "great idea" to attack IMO newbies in which I decided that was pretty stupid, plus, as a
sign of friendship with sgt.blue, i already prefer not to attack IMO so that is already set

Achillies: agreed

Achillies: then we have a truce

RoiLeon: yep

[Roileon]

yea i checked, it appears that i was kinda wrong, and i apologise to you for that but here are the comments

Achillies: that should also in clude newbies from imo

RoiLeon: Fox doesn't attack newbies of IMO, are u sure that isn't Skyhawk/PK

Achillies: or members

Achillies: my bad

Achillies: you are right The newbies was PK

RoiLeon: ????????some sensitive info here that i dont think roi wants people to know about??? Sky had this "great idea" to attack IMO newbies in which I decided that was pretty stupid, plus, as a
sign of friendship with sgt.blue, i already prefer not to attack IMO so that is already set

Achillies: agreed

Achillies: then we have a truce

RoiLeon: yep

paste the entire chat please

[Spastic]

here it is
RoiLeon: I disagree to surrender as do you.

RoiLeon: And the point of this chatroom should not be to achieve a surrender.

RoiLeon: Of either side. You proposed a truce, so lets get there.

Achillies: that is fine

spastic: hey

spastic: im here to witness right?

Achillies: you must admit that this is not a good way for our guilds to be

Achillies: hey spatic you are right

spastic: cool, ill shut up now

RoiLeon: Now that that's cleared, also suggest that a witness should be a player (and no offense intended) that overall every knows to be ==. Black
Sparrow, Capt. D, Capt. Da Vinci, et cetera. First approval comes from Spastic, second comes from one of the previously listed, is that fine?

spastic: btw, both Ds arnt online right now

Achillies: ROI invite any one of them you trust

RoiLeon: They aren't online, we would send them our final resolve.

Achillies: im good with that and suggested so

Achillies: luffy is here roi if you want him here

RoiLeon: No, me and Luffy were never really close after I left PK. Fox & PK were never allies,

Achillies: sorry some body popped me out

Achillies: thats cool

RoiLeon: But lets begin, I'm fine with how we are now. So, since you started this, what do you suggest that's =

RoiLeon: "Im fine with this chatroom"

RoiLeon: Not the situation of our guilds


Achillies: so this truce should should state 1.) no voodoo to be cast on tmn or Imo members ... nor members of TMN or IMO will cast voodoo on fox.


RoiLeon: Also, for future note, Fox is split into 2 major sects, Merchants, and Pirates. If another war is to break out, then I ask that only the pirates
(Pastry Warriors) are targets.

RoiLeon: And not the merchants who don't harm anyone

Achillies: no if you call for guild war that is every body

RoiLeon: There was never any formal war declared so our guilds were never at war

RoiLeon: This was pointed out by Xepshunall

Achillies: that was not what you posted in tavern forums

RoiLeon: It is not, but I ended it when Xepshunall pointed out there was never a war in the first place so why am I asking you for a surrender

RoiLeon: Which is why I stopped

Achillies: but if you want to set a limited war then i would suggest that we discuss that as a per attack limited war with both sides agreeing to set participants and a time limit

RoiLeon: I agree that this truce should should state 1.) no voodoo to be cast on tmn members ... nor members of TMN will cast voodoo on fox. 2) Our guilds are free to attack each other as the game and rule 1) allows.

Achillies: i agree with terms one and two

RoiLeon: I do not wish to set a war. And spastic, you agree that this is fair?

RoiLeon: 1.) no voodoo to be cast on tmn members ... nor members of TMN will cast voodoo on fox. 2) Our guilds are free to attack each other as the game and rule 1) allows.

RoiLeon: I also think that this truce needs a time limit, and a buffer period after that

spastic: yea its fair, but

spastic: it will probably escalate into war again

Achillies: would there be an alotted time before we resume attacks ship to ship

RoiLeon: How so? And yes I can see 2 days

Achillies: say resume ship to ship atacks as normal in 5 days

spastic: its that how so at me?

RoiLeon: yea, and agreed

spastic: umm well in a hypothetical situation achillies raids a player and has 180 dr

spastic: you attack him 10 times

spastic: a players goes for revenge later

spastic: which could escalate to war, theoretically

RoiLeon: Any war, if war, would be a controlled war, with set limits. Not only, if that player has 180dr, and they are attacked, then we attack back. All of this happens without voodoo. But with this, attacks would have to be with equal fleets due to the Elite v. Free Player, or Voodoo God v. Voodoo
Guerrilla.

Achillies: so to restate no voodoo Period and no attacks ship to ship for 5 days. then we resume after 5 days ship to ship attacks and voodoo stays in your decks

spastic: well did they treaty of Versailles stop germany

spastic: the*

Achillies: as far as ships go run what you got.

RoiLeon: Yea pretty much, but I also think that truces make a boring game and you have to admit having a bad guy like Fox makes the game more
interesting which is why I think this truce should have a time period. 2-3 weeks maybe.

Achillies: well if you want a truce with limits when u get tired of peaceful living post and we will discuss a limited player free for all

spastic: so you want a cease fire?

Achillies: but you need to make sure your players know who is to be included and only those players are targets

RoiLeon: okay,

RoiLeon: I lost half the chat so, the final resolve is...

RoiLeon: to put it formally

Achillies: this is the funniest post ive seen in days.

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Achillies: sorry sytem has a glitch

Achillies: 1.) no voodoo to be cast on tmn members ... nor members of TMN will cast voodoo on fox. 2) Our guilds are free to attack each other as the game and rule 1) allows.

RoiLeon: I also think that this truce needs a time limit, and a buffer period after that . grace period of 5days with no attacks ship to ship.

Achillies: then any attacks as allowed by game rules ship to ship.

Achillies: any voodoo to be used only after a limited player list is agreed to. then the war between said combatants is free for all no holds barred within preset time limit.

Achillies: is that correct

RoiLeon: Correct

Achillies: that should also in clude newbies from imo

RoiLeon: Fox doesn't attack newbies of IMO, are u sure that isn't Skyhawk/PK

Achillies: or members

Achillies: my bad

Achillies: you are right The newbies was PK

RoiLeon: [sensitive information here]sky had this "great idea" to attack IMO newbies in which I decided that was pretty stupid, plus, as a sign of friendship with sgt.blue, i already prefer not to attack IMO so that is already set

Achillies: agreed

Achillies: then we have a truce

RoiLeon: yep

Achillies: ok all greed good discussing this with you roi i think we may be able to work togther better this is very positive

spastic: cool

spastic: every1 is happy

spastic: am i still needed?

Achillies spastic for doing this and no you can leave

Achillies: thanks for meeting with me roi have a good day

spastic: anytime

spastic: im just upset that there was no yelling

Achillies: you so bad spastic

Achillies: lolol

spastic: haha

spastic: cya


im probably gonna get banned from the forums for a bit for this, but........whatever