Biden 2020

[Leo]

I'm trying to stay out of these as much as possible, so I'll make this fast.

I wouldn't have voted for Kamala in the Primaries. I do however think that she was one of the best options for VP. She's hell of a lot better than Biden. I agree with Will, Karen Bass would be much better. However, you can complain all you want about Biden / Harris. But the current VP is pro-conversion therapy. Do you know what that is? It's basically a "treatment" for homosexuality (not proven to work) that involves electroshock. That's horrible. And Pence is one of my least favorite politicians. He is so conservative and traditional that it actually hurts to listen to him. Just pointing it out. Anyway, I believe that you guys would probably criticize anyone that Biden would have picked, be it Kamala Harris, Karen Bass, or someone completely unrelated. No one is perfect. Some people are more imperfect than others. But picking out and exposing their impurities doesn't make for all-around thinking. You can say that I do the same thing with Trump, but truthfully I don't like a single aspect about that man. Even the Isidewith test that I posted here told me that I agreed with him 1%. Litterally the only thing that he has done that I agree with was a bill he passed stating that all music streaming services that did not transfer money to musicians would have to pay them 43% more (still not noticeable to me lol).

Two things that have happened since I last posted here:
1: According to some witnesses, Trump and an advisor met with the Governor of South Dakota to ask if there was any way to get his face onto Mt. Rushmore. Being that there wasn't video or audio recordings, Trump denied this yet said that putting his face on the mountain "sounds like a good idea"

2: Trump was fact-checked by a reporter at a press conference when he lied about passing the veteran's choice act, which was actually passed in 2014 by none other than Obama and written by none other than Bernie Sanders and John McCain. He did not respond but instead immediately shut down the press conference. Way to go Donald, real brave. I though his supporters liked him because he is "honest" and "courageous". He showcased the opposite of both of those.

Anyhow...

[Meliva]

Considering that Kamala said to the women who accused Biden of sexual assault that she "believed them" when she was fighting him for the nomination, but now is perfectly fine running with him as his VP honestly tells me all I need to know of her character.

Either A-she is willing to use whatever ammunition she can find to hurt her opponents regardless if she truly believes it or knows it to be true.
Or B-she is willing to toss aside her morals to benefit herself.

Also, so what if Trump likes the idea of him being put on Mt. Rushmore? Most folks would. Do I think he deserves it? Personally no, but I wouldn't care too much if he was added on.

Also, yes he does lie from time to time. Most if not all politicians do. Doesn't change the fact I think he's done a good job for the most part. Besides, Biden has lied far more then him in his time as a politician anyway. Not to mention that he's clearly losing his mind.

[William one eye]

You miss the point, Blue,. Trump and pence are exactly who they claimed to be when they ran. In my opinion, Pence is stuck in 1950s america. Maybe Hes there to make certain liberals dont have trump assainated because you would end up with him in charge.


I actually think harris will do a good job as president.
Once she declares biden has touched her in an innappropriate way and has him removed.

She will say what she wants, do what she wants, what she thinks is best for the country, reguardless of what her voters of party want. Sometimes she will propose conservative acts and somes they will be liberal. Maybe because she wants a favor or maybe because she thinks its the right move. Sometimes thats what we need.

Honestly neither her or biden are particularly polarizing. Despite what they claim, they tend to lean middle. I just thought they were very odd choices considering the protests.

Really the dems could run ronald mcdonald holding a sign that says my fist act as president will be to defeat trump and his running mate could be the burger king and they would probably still get 90% of the liberal vote.

Im wondering how many police will vote democrat this year though.

[Leo]

Trump and Pence are exactly who they claim to be (and that's why I don't like 'em )
Again I wouldn't have voted for either Harris or Biden in the primaries because Harris is a flip-flopper and Biden is... well, Joe Biden. Harris would do a fine job as a president. Not good, not bad. She isn't all that progressive, but she's a lot closer to it than Trump. The reason that the Dems will vote for the Dem in this election is because they are sick of Trump. At this point Ronald McDonald would probably be a better president.

As for the police, I don't care how they vote. The system is set up in a dysfunctional way that disadvantages minorities and poor people. If what happened after the murder of George Floyd turned them against democrats, then I have no regard for their opinion since they are obviously idiots (to me, anyway). Even if some people handled his death poorly, that is no means for what is going on right now to continue. Police are able to get away with high crimes because they have a union that they hide behind. Usually I'm pro-union but not in the case of police unions. Their main purpose is to make sure that officers can't be held accountable for crimes that they would normally be held accountable for. Why do you think so many officers get off on manslaughter charges? Some don't get convicted at all! Yet if I were to go up to someone in their car and shoot them four times in the chest, you bet your ass that I wouldn't be charged with manslaughter, and I definitely wouldn't get away completely. It's time for police to be held accountable for their actions just like the rest of us. Why do they get special privileges?

[Lachlan]

speaking of elections in 2016 there was this like 15 year old teenager and entered himself as deez nuts and got 9 percent of the votes in I think it was in North Carolina and he did no campaigning and I thought it was funny. btw he came in third! Imagine if you had gotten that kid for president I would die laughing

[William one eye]

That deez, Would have been below the minimum age requirement to take office.

[Meliva]

Blue, some of the democrats are LITERALLY saying they want to defund the police. It would be idiotic for them to vote democrats if that's what some in their party want. To vote for someone who literally wants to defund your job, is absolutely moronic. It would be like a jew deciding to vote in a nazi. You do not support people who want to cause you harm, whether it be physical, emotional, mental or financial.

[Psychodad]

gotta say its a much better option than 60k in debt for lesbian dance theory

got any videos of that lesbian dance theory class?

[Leo]

Blue, some of the democrats are LITERALLY saying they want to defund the police. It would be idiotic for them to vote democrats if that's what some in their party want. To vote for someone who literally wants to defund your job, is absolutely moronic. It would be like a jew deciding to vote in a nazi. You do not support people who want to cause you harm, whether it be physical, emotional, mental or financial.

Yes I agree. But "defund the police" doesn't actually mean what it sounds like. I would say that what they are actually going for is "reform the police". Again, I wouldn't be surprised if all the police voted republican or 3rd-party. But comparing the defund the police movement to nazi-ism is short-sited and also just a bad example. The vast majority of people who would like to defund the police do not want to kill them. Nazis want to kill Jews. There was never a mass genocide targeted at police officers, there was for Jews. And even if the police were defunded, that doesn't necessarily mean that they would lose their jobs. It just means take away taxpayer money because it is being used in unethical ways. A lot of the anti-Biden ads I've seen show a recording of a call to 911 and no one answers because the police have been defunded. That's simple not how it would work. The dispatchers would not be fired, most police wouldn't be. A lot of the ads are very misleading (on both sides) because they show an inaccurate exaggeration of something that could happen if they were elected. With Trump, they don't have to do that because he's already president.

[William one eye]

I know more police officers that identified democrat than republican, before the riots started,

If you cut police funding to give it to inner city programs.
You will drastically reduce crimes of need. Basically people that turn to crime so they can feed themselves or family members. You will also most likely reduce drug usage and unwanted pregnancys, because people will be better informed about consequences of their actions. This is not a bad thing.

However you will not reduce crime commited by inherently bad people.

Now the cut in funds must come from somewhere.

Equipment is pretty much required so its unlikely that will be cut.

Cuts will come in the form of either staff reduction.

...... exactly the scare advert .


Or much worse, pay or benefits.
Bad pay and crappy benefits will mean you are likley going to get Worse cops. The hiring pool will be smaller, chances of having to hire someone who is currupt is more likely.

You do realize the police exist to protect people who abide by the law from people who are breaking the law.

Doctors screw up all the time.
If a black patient dies during surgury performed by a white doctor no one seems concerned.