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Re: Biden 2020

Postby DezNutz » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:02 pm

Lord Mustache wrote:You can think that, but to me it is morally wrong.

These people have escaped a tough situation. They sacrificed a lot to get their family to safety. The least we can do is let them stay in the US until things cool down back home.

They aren't cowards. They are brave as hell to risk their lives to get their loved ones out of danger. Anyone who fights back gets killed by the government. That's why they left.

Honestly they are probably too good for the selfish and unwelcoming United States of America. They should go to Canada where they will gladly be let in and not called cowards for fleeing danger.

Gosh, Americans are such asses.


Are there no countries between Syria and the United States that are "Safe"?

Refugees by definition intend to return to their home country. If you have no intention of returning to your home country upon the end of the "crisis/reason" for leaving, you are not a refugee you are an immigrant. Using refugee status as a means to come to the US when there are numerous countries that border your own that can take you as a refugee is abuse of the refugee status.

If you think America is unwelcoming, try immigrating to Mexico. Don't let the facts get in your way. Mexico will let you come in with open arms and their own Southern Border Wall is really just a myth.

Oh, I get it. You're a globalist. Makes sense. Sovereignty is not important. Following laws are not important. Everyone should gain the benefits of America, while those in American pay for it. You are so ill-prepared for life its pathetic.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby DezNutz » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:07 pm

Lord Mustache wrote:So what you are saying, is that you think I am somehow racist by calling out racism?


What and whose racism? Please provide a specific example.

The only racists I know are people who classify people by their race and live their lives by race.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were the kind of person that says they aren't racist because they have black friends.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:07 pm

Yeah, I mean if I had to flee my home for fear of my life, I would look for the nearest place that would be safe, and try to leave asap. I would not look for the Best place to go to, or take time comparing places. If I lived in Syria and had to flee, I would go to probably the nearest safe place in Europe. I wouldn't waste time and effort trying to flee to the US.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Leo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:17 pm

The left are the people that focus on race, because the right ignores it. And being ignorant to racial problems isn't the same as being free from racism.

I do agree that the left focuses on race a little too much, but the right acts as if it the problems don't exist, which is far worse.

To me, Trump is racist. Does that mean that his supporters are all racist? No, but it does open up some questions about what they of them believe when it comes to race.

A video by Fox news is as good as a video made by a four-year old. Their information is biased and plagued by the fact that almost all of them are far-right.

I'd also like to point out that the "far-left radicals" who are always talking about racial issues are very often of color, and are affected by the problems they talk about. And sometimes they are white, but that's OK. If you think that racial activism by white people is somehow racist, then I don't know what you've been listening to (maybe Fox).

If you are annoyed that people have turned "racist" into a petty argument, stop and think. People usually don't call other people racist out of no where. I guarantee you 99 times of 100 those claims came from somewhere. It means that they think that you are genuinely racist. The claim COULD be complete B.S., but chances are that if someone calls you racist there is a reason and you should probably think about what it is that made them think that. If you really can't find any reason, then maybe you maybe you aren't racist and it was a 1 in 100 thing. Or maybe you are just so closed minded that you refuse to accept what racism actually is, and that you, and anyone, could be racist.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:24 pm

Lord Mustache wrote:So what you are saying, is that you think I am somehow racist by calling out racism?


rejecting illegals who broke the law according to you is racist
name one thing trump has done thats racist .... with facts not feelings

you know like me saying hillary calling african americans super predators was racist
or biden saying "you cant walk into a 7/11 or dunkin donuts unless you have a slight indian accent "
or biden saying once he lost a chunk of black votes and decided to pander to hispanic voters "unlike the african american community with notable exceptions the latino community is an incredibly diverse community"
and of course the "if you have a problem figuring out if youre for me or trump you aint black" was incredibly racist
then his praise of obama was pretty racist on what it implied "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean"
which was mirrored in the next quote as well “poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids”

add that to him being proud to work with eastland and talmudge who were opposing leaders of policy against desegragation

what about mary ann lasanti calling an predominetly african american county a n..... district
or planned parenthood calling sen eddie lucio jr "sucio lucio" in flyers and a website put up by them

add these few and many more views expressed by democrats to the fact they were for jim crow laws and the founders and users of the kkk
and you can see why i laugh at your accusations of racism coming from the party who has always benefited from racism
and here you are a little biden jr expressing racist actions to further racism for the good of your party

smh

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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:26 pm

this coming from a kid who literally labelled half the US as racists, homophobic and xenophobic for supporting trump. yeah sorry but from that stupid comment alone, anyone you label as something is meaningless to me at this point. Anyone who would label half an entire country as various insults is someone who clearly is either ignorant, biased or just plain stupid.

Personally, I don't give a damn what color a persons skin is-I care more about what actions they take and their beliefs. The rioters I view as thugs and criminals. Trump as an arse but effective leader. Biden a dementia ridden old man. You, I view as an ignorant child who thinks they know better then everyone around them. Hopefully you grow out of that-I doubt it though.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:27 pm

Dmanwuzhere wrote:
Lord Mustache wrote:So what you are saying, is that you think I am somehow racist by calling out racism?


rejecting illegals who broke the law according to you is racist
name one thing trump has done thats racist .... with facts not feelings

you know like me saying hillary calling african americans super predators was racist
or biden saying "you cant walk into a 7/11 or dunkin donuts unless you have a slight indian accent "
or biden saying once he lost a chunk of black votes and decided to pander to hispanic voters "unlike the african american community with notable exceptions the latino community is an incredibly diverse community"
and of course the "if you have a problem figuring out if youre for me or trump you aint black" was incredibly racist
then his praise of obama was pretty racist on what it implied "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean"
which was mirrored in the next quote as well “poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids”

add that to him being proud to work with eastland and talmudge who were opposing leaders of policy against desegragation

what about mary ann lasanti calling an predominetly african american county a n..... district
or planned parenthood calling sen eddie lucio jr "sucio lucio" in flyers and a website put up by them

add these few and many more views expressed by democrats to the fact they were for jim crow laws and the founders and users of the kkk
and you can see why i laugh at your accusations of racism coming from the party who has always benefited from racism
and here you are a little biden jr expressing racist actions to further racism for the good of your party

smh

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and by your own logic since i called you racist it must be cemented as fact shhhh just embrace it
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby DezNutz » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:37 pm

Lord Mustache wrote:
To me, Trump is racist. Does that mean that his supporters are all racist? No, but it does open up some questions about what they of them believe when it comes to race.



Robert Byrd. Hero of the Democrat Party. Friend of Clinton, Pelosi, Biden, Schumer, etc.. Grand Wizard of the KKK.

Robert Byrd is a racist. There is no belief or feeling. Cold hard Fact. It brings into question those that supported him and their subsequent supporters.

You have belief. I have facts.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Leo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:01 pm

I didn't know that there was such thing as being "factually racist", because racism in itself is based on feelings.

But, here goes:

This doesn't necessarily by itself that Trump is racist, although it should definitely be a big red flag. A former KKK leader endorsed Trump for president.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 09491.html

You should know that something is wrong if the biggest racial hate group in the world endorses you. And then he failed to distance himself from them. He even claimed that he didn't know anything about the KKK, which is completely false.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 09491.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way ... premacists

He essentially created a conspiracy theory called the birther movement, which was the idea that President Obama was not born in Hawaii, but as I recall Kenya making him an illegal US president. Birth records proved otherwise. But apparently if you aren't white you couldn't have been born in the US. What's to say that Trump was born in the US but not Obama? There is just as much evidence of Trump being born here as there is of Obama.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald- ... d=42138176

The entire time he has been running for president and in office, he has been de-humanizing immigrants. He spreads rhetoric that immigrants should be associated with crime more than citizens.

The travel ban. He banned people from traveling to the US from certain predominantly Muslim countries in a gesture to limit "radical Islamic terrorism". If you don't see that as racist then you probably won't see anything that he does or says as racist.

I don't say it best. Some other people do: https://abcnews.go.com/US/GMA3/naacp-pr ... d=72999406


The idea that the democratic party is racist really needs to stop. It is obvious that the democratic party is not the same party that founded the KKK and installed Jim Crow laws. Democrats used to be extremely conservative, fought for keeping slavery and for the right to discriminate. They used to be jerks. Republicans used to fight for racial equality, abolishing slavery, and the rights of all colors.

The issues were not at all the same back then, so it is completely unfair to compare how it was back then to how it is now. Does it look like I'm fighting to restrict the rights of black people?

Even if you don't believe in the party swap, you can at least admit that both the parties have changed drastically since that era.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:03 pm

Blue you really do have no idea of what you are talking about.

Yes, you can indeed be a racist and be proven as such by facts. Simplest fact being- Do you believe any group of people to be inferior(or superior) to other groups simply because of their race? If the answer to that is yes, regardless of whichever group you may be thinking of(be it black, white, or purple) then by the very definition of racism, and the fact that you believe a group to be inferior or superior then you are in fact racist. Same applies to every other human on the planet. If the person does not believe that, and thinks all races are equal and deserve to be treated equally, then they are not racist. Doesn't matter if they don't support other groups, doesn't matter if they dislike immigration, they are not racist, because they do not believe skin color affects one's worth or equality.

I don't mind legal immigration, but i dislike Illegal immigration. I don't like Far away refugees coming to America when their are closer options that are also available. I don't mind if a wall is built on our border with Mexico, as that won't hurt any legal immigration. I do think there are better things to spend that money on, but it's not a huge issue for me.
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