Biden 2020

[Leo]

I have to admit. I feel a bit out of it, I thought this was all just a talking point by opinion shows on Fox. I didnt believe that there were people out there gullible enough to be lied for 3 years, know that they were lied to, and still some will believe every false flag raised by the dems.

See this is why i can vote for dems anymore. Kinda scary actually.

Believe me, the Dems over here think the exact same thing about republicans. Who's right? Probably neither. You see, there is this thing called opinion. Almost everyone has one, and they can be very different from one another.

But, in MY opinion...

You are being lied to about us being lied to. You think that there is some grand scheme to overthrow capitalism or something, but really there isn't. While capitalism has some flaws, and needs to be updated to fit modern society, our current system is too strong to be taken over. It would take almost every single congressperson to be some kind of radical communist or something in order for anything even close to a communist overthrow to take place, but even then there are still laws that prohibit extreme changes like that.

I'll have you know that I'm not - and never was a Joe Biden fan. Most democrats weren't. He was nominated because of his "electabillity", the reason that Hillary was nominated, meaning basically that they both have boring ideas that no one really likes, but they sit best with Conservative voters. A stupid reason to nominate someone.

If I had my way I would not "put Joe Biden as leader". You know what I would do? I would continue the democratic process, but remove any way to hack, rig, or do any other sort of fraud in the election. I would make it so that the senate majority leader cannot block a bill from being voted on, because right now it really isn't democratic, it's the decision of one person.

Trump is a horrible president. I have no doubt that Biden will be pretty bad if he is elected.

The thing is, we probably won't get an actually good president that anyone truly likes in the system we have, because it is based on who has the most "reasonable" ideas, not who has the best.

[Mack]

you have been spouting socialism socialism..... hmmm

[Leo]

Mack, you really haven't contributed much to the thread lately. First you just put "Trump 2020" and "All lives matter" in big, bold font with no other context, and now you just posted an incomplete sentence where it is impossible to tell what you are trying to convey.

[Mack]

i have contributed more out of my own brain then you have out of yours

[Leo]

mmhhmm. Ok.

[Mack]

what has trump done that makes him so bad?

[Leo]

I've spent the last two months saying everything that he's done that makes it bad, and most of the time you guys have ignored it or blown it off with whataboutisms and by saying "that's not bad because".

I've said what I don't like about him. If you disagree that's fine.

[DezNutz]

I've spent the last two months saying everything that he's done that makes it bad, and most of the time you guys have ignored it or blown it off with whataboutisms and by saying "that's not bad because".

I've said what I don't like about him. If you disagree that's fine.

Ah yes feelings. Lets all use feelings to determine everything.

[Leo]

Not everything can be determined by facts. While facts are a nice thing to have and are great backing points for arguments, there aren't facts to support why you like things that he did, and why other people don't. It's simple. Sure he might not have personally murdered 12 people, but he does have many policies that go against my morals, values, and political beliefs.

[DezNutz]

Not everything can be determined by facts. While facts are a nice thing to have and are great backing points for arguments, there aren't facts to support why you like things that he did, and why other people don't. It's simple. Sure he might not have personally murdered 12 people, but he does have many policies that go against my morals, values, and political beliefs.

Subjective (Feelings) vs Objective (Facts)

If you don't use facts, your determination is subjective. Subjective determination is non-scientific and might as well be called a religion, as it is entirely based on belief. Are you a science denier?


Also...

Name the policies.