Biden 2020

[Lachlan]

When you do universal healthcare, it literally can not be capitalist. Most of your government and society might be capitalist, but universal healthcare is not.

Here's a video that does a fairly good job of explaining this topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo

See his point about how laser eye surgery made a huge leap because it was free market based? There are flaws with our health care system, but universal health care is not the answer.

I know it's not Capitalist I said it was a socialist thing.

[Meliva]

I was responding to you saying Australia is Capitlist. One of the reasons America is one of the big pioneers in medical tech, is because our medical field is a lot more capitalistic then other's. Not as much as it could and should be, but more then most countries.

Competition is a very good thing. The video I linked Ben gives a good example. Laser Eye surgery was largely untouched and was allowed to develop without anyone forcing it to stick to one way.

Our medical field can do with improvements-the biggest of which would be to do more free markets and let competition and capitlism really thrive.

edit- as to the killer weed issue, never touched the stuff personally, and no little about it, but unless you are mixing it with some stronger drugs, I really do not see weed killing anyone. I mean maybe if you made a very concentrated batch of brownies, and just went ham on them, even then, think it would just make you sick not outright kill you.

Again, I just know it's less harmful then tobacco unless you do something stupid with it.

[Lachlan]

I was responding to you saying Australia is Capitlist. One of the reasons America is one of the big pioneers in medical tech, is because our medical field is a lot more capitalistic then other's. Not as much as it could and should be, but more then most countries.

Competition is a very good thing. The video I linked Ben gives a good example. Laser Eye surgery was largely untouched and was allowed to develop without anyone forcing it to stick to one way.

Our medical field can do with improvements-the biggest of which would be to do more free markets and let competition and capitlism really thrive.

oh right I got confused

[Lachlan]

haha...Killer Weed! I've heard it called that but I don't think anybody died...

Yes Mack - How did we create such an 'entitled' generation - too much, too soon, too easy ?

how are we an entitled generation? We are young so we don't know how the world really works and are naive not entitled...

[Meliva]

I mean, what do you call someone who goes around saying that everyone should be just GIVEN homes, food and other necessities regardless if they work or not, of if they have any disability.

Think it was a Jamestown motto or some other early colonist motto that said it simply. If you don't work, you don't eat. That's a good motto. Nothing in life should just be given, if one can work and earn it. Now for folks with severe disability, and literally can NOT work, that's an exception. But if you are able to work, and just wanna sit at home and do nothing and be taken care of, sorry, but unless you're a baby, or incapable of taking care of yourself, you shouldn't be able to do nothing and live off everyone else's work.

[Lachlan]

I mean, what do you call someone who goes around saying that everyone should be just GIVEN homes, food and other necessities regardless if they work or not, of if they have any disability.

Think it was a Jamestown motto or some other early colonist motto that said it simply. If you don't work, you don't eat. That's a good motto. Nothing in life should just be given, if one can work and earn it. Now for folks with severe disability, and literally can NOT work, that's an exception. But if you are able to work, and just wanna sit at home and do nothing and be taken care of, sorry, but unless you're a baby, or incapable of taking care of yourself, you shouldn't be able to do nothing and live off everyone else's work.

why do you older folks keep on generalizing my generation? Sure there are some in my generation who think that but I'd say most of my generation is just as hard working and driven to succeed. It's just like Mack or someone before saying our generation thinks it's cool to take drugs and the percentage of people who use drugs has risen. Absolute nonsense.

[Argo]

haha...Killer Weed! I've heard it called that but I don't think anybody died...

Yes Mack - How did we create such an 'entitled' generation - too much, too soon, too easy ?

how are we an entitled generation? We are young so we don't know how the world really works and are naive not entitled...

That, Kim..is the smartest thing I've see written - clearly there are exceptions - I meant in general. I doubt anyone of a generation labelled 'entitled' would be able to see it - however - you know what they say - 'if it rattle yer cage - there be some truth to it"....

[Lachlan]

haha...Killer Weed! I've heard it called that but I don't think anybody died...

Yes Mack - How did we create such an 'entitled' generation - too much, too soon, too easy ?

how are we an entitled generation? We are young so we don't know how the world really works and are naive not entitled...

That, Kim..is the smartest thing I've see written - clearly there are exceptions - I meant in general. I doubt anyone of a generation labelled 'entitled' would be able to see it - however - you know what they say - 'if it rattle yer cage - there be some truth to it"....

I actually think that in part you are right but my friends and I were born before the GFC and around the GFC we were old enough to retain memories and all my friends and I learn't the importance of saving money. I mean some more than others lol but I think actually kids born around 2010 to probably before 2019 are much more entitled. But it depends on your parents and upbringing as well

[Meliva]

I doubt you're much younger then me. I'm only 27-though I grew up with a dad old as dirt, he could tell you he remembered when burgers were only a nickel, gas was about 15 cents a gallon, and for one whole dollar you could go to the picture show, get a large candy bar, some popcorn, a soda and have some change. Spent so much time with him I think it aged me mentally .

It doesn't help that often times the loudest folks are the ones with the worst ideas. So many people have lately seemed to just expect that certain things should be free, and easy to access etc. when ultimately life isn't simple, nor fair, if it was, we wouldn't need to propose any plans to make lives better or at least it would be far easier and simpler.

[Meliva]

A few other old timey phrases he used included

Fridge- The Ice Box
Spatula- Pancake Turner
Gravy on Toast-Sh*t on a Shingle
Brazil nuts- well let's just skip that one