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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Leo » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:26 pm

Meliva wrote:honestly voting for someone just because you dislike the other guy isn't a very good reason to vote. I don't really like trump too much myself, but frankly, between him and Biden, Trump is the one who I think will do a better job. With the way Biden's memory and mind is going, he just isn't fit for any office, let alone the presidency.


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Trump is also losing his memory and his hold. Didn't you se the video of him trying to pick up a glass of water? Or taking ten minutes to get down 5 steps? A lot of psychiatrists have already announced that if Trump were to get tested he would probably be found to have onset dementia. I know everyone is supposed to vote, but really just do a write in or don't vote at all if you don't want either. In my opinion Trump has failed all his chances to prove that he knows what he's doing a s a President. At least Biden was a politician previously. Trump was a businessman, and he still thinks like one, which is why it's so problematic to have as president.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby The Lamb » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:21 pm

But isnt the government just a big business. Its the law and people business, with dollars in, dollars out, benefits, retirements, security, etc?
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Mack » Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:13 pm

you should hear trump talk about those videos in the tulsa rally.... the media is really good at what they do...

i know it takes too much time to watch, its much easier to just deny..

the key i think is to look up what you learn to see if it might be real.. there is a lot of fake news on both sides
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:58 pm

Blue mustache wrote:
Meliva wrote:honestly voting for someone just because you dislike the other guy isn't a very good reason to vote. I don't really like trump too much myself, but frankly, between him and Biden, Trump is the one who I think will do a better job. With the way Biden's memory and mind is going, he just isn't fit for any office, let alone the presidency.


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Trump is also losing his memory and his hold. Didn't you se the video of him trying to pick up a glass of water? Or taking ten minutes to get down 5 steps? A lot of psychiatrists have already announced that if Trump were to get tested he would probably be found to have onset dementia. I know everyone is supposed to vote, but really just do a write in or don't vote at all if you don't want either. In my opinion Trump has failed all his chances to prove that he knows what he's doing a s a President. At least Biden was a politician previously. Trump was a businessman, and he still thinks like one, which is why it's so problematic to have as president.


Physical health problems do not concern me when it comes to a president. Just mental ones. FDR had Polio, Teddy Roosevelt had asthma, but both were good presidents in my opinion. Trump is also 74 years old mate. Of course he is going to have some physical problems. Again, mental health is all that really matters in my opinion. Also What psychiatrists exactly have said he has onset Dementia? Do you have a source? Are they unbiased, or just part of the large group that condemn him for anything and everything? From what I have seen of Trump speaking, if he is starting to have it, It's not noticeable. Granted I am no doctor, but I can clearly see he doesn't stumble or gaff nowhere near as often or as bad as Biden. So if Trump is indeed starting to lose his mind, I can safely say he's still not as far gone as Joe.

Edit-quick side note, I will say that physical health problems do concern me if they are lethal and I feel that the person simply won't live a full term. Serious and very lethal conditions would make me pause to vote for someone.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:53 am

Blue mustache wrote: But just imagine a country where college was free and racial minorities where able to have the same opportunity as racial majorities. Yes, it would cost the taxpayers a little bit more money, but still less money per person than a college tuition! I'm for environmental cleanup, as well as stricter anti-pollution laws and higher pollution taxes.


a country where college was free
pell grants and scholarships are free
but if you are industrious and have faith in yourself and believe you should pay your own way then student loans are fine

racial minorities were able to have the same opportunities as racial majorities
joke right?
pell grants are available to most every high school graduate
of course scholarships may require you meet some standard
and minorities can get student loans and do just like anyone else

but lets discuss this minority statement
a japenese student sat score is hit with a - so has to score way higher than say a white person ( white is a stupid description of the multitudes of races it encompasses but ill stay on the preferred blanket race called white)
a black person(literally any black person) is hit with a + so has the privilege other races do not enjoy of scoring below average and/or scoring below all other races and still scoring better than they actually do

but a couple of points here
first japenese are more of a minority but have to work harder for the sat score
and secondly while that racism is a slight to the japenese imagine what it says about blacks
apparently someone feels they are less intelligent and require a crutch seems like racist bs to me
but more importantly it seems some do not want equality in education

but free college is a great thing so i encourage you to take out loans and put someone through school while you are waiting on me and everyone else to do it for you ;)
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:15 am

Let's also not forget that children being separated was also done in the Obama era.

And honestly there already is racial equality. We have laws that prohibit discrimination based on Race, Religion, Sex, Ancestry and a few others I can't recall off the top of my head. Now obviously just like with ALL laws, some folks will not obey them-some folks are bigoted, and may try to abuse their power. Thanks to the laws though, if for example a black man was fired or not hired simply because he was black, then he can report it, and possibly sue.

And like Dman said, if one works hard, and is smart, they should be able to go through college and get a degree without incurring debt, or having a manageable amount. Of course, if you go and grab a bunch of worthless degrees, well that's on the student frankly. I don't want to pay taxes so some folks can decide on a whim they want to learn Scandinavian history at the local college for example.

there's a fair number of degrees and classes I wouldn't mind going to myself. I'm a bit of a history nerd, and I wouldn't mind getting a degree in some sort of history. However I'm also not keen on paying what little spare money I have just for a whim or hobby.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:33 am

not quite what you mean meliva but if you or anyone else wanted free courses on the constitution and some other political and historical issues
you can visit here

https://www.hillsdale.edu/educational-o ... e-courses/

you can buy or not buy accompanying texts to help with any course you may take and while you receive a completion certificate i would say to do it for personal growth

gotta say its a much better option than 60k in debt for lesbian dance theory :D
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby Meliva » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:06 am

Dmanwuzhere wrote:not quite what you mean meliva but if you or anyone else wanted free courses on the constitution and some other political and historical issues
you can visit here

https://www.hillsdale.edu/educational-o ... e-courses/

you can buy or not buy accompanying texts to help with any course you may take and while you receive a completion certificate i would say to do it for personal growth

gotta say its a much better option than 60k in debt for lesbian dance theory :D



Might check that out later thanks. Yeah some of the degrees out there are just ridiculous. Honestly I would not waste time or money on a degree that didn't offer some sort of benefit. History at least could let you become a history teacher, or perhaps some sort of specialist. Plus I just think history is a good thing to know.

Edit-By far the most useful thing I like about history is how you can learn from it, and be able to see certain things as warning signs. Many major wars, depressions, and other nasty events often have similar events leading up to them.

Ex-if you live in a monarchy/dictatorship, and the leader does not have a chosen successor, then odds are once that leader dies, a lot of fighting is going to happen.
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby The Lamb » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:23 pm

Biden quote of the day:

"Now we have over 120 million dead from COVID."
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Re: Biden 2020

Postby William one eye » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:21 am

How about this for a Biden quote

“No issue has consumed more of my time and energies,” Mr. Biden declared with a flourish as he opened a Senate hearing in 1981, adding, “We want to stop court-ordered busing.”


Above From
July 15 2019 new york times


Bussing was the first step forward in the desegregation of schools in segregated areas


To be clear Biden is not a true southern dixiecrat, he is in favor of civil rights, hes just more in favor of selling out his ideals if it will win him votes.
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