TRUMP 2020!

[DezNutz]

I am? How about I consult a few scientists?

Sure, and when you speak to them ask them if the predictions they made are absolute fact or is it just theory.

[Leo]

Sounds good.

[Leo]

I just got off the phone.

Here is the direct transcript:

Me: "Hi, um I'd like to know, in regards to climate change if you can confidently say, as a climatologist, that climate change is real, and not just theory? I've been debating some people who seem to be a little on the skeptical side. "

Climatologist: "There is a certain point where with, um, with enough evidence you can, you can accurately say that climate change is real and is a real problem. And So we have enough evidence to, to, to safely say that these climate models are factual, not just predictions. And you sound like a bright young man, and if you, if you want my opinion, if you want my opinion, you are wasting your time debating with these folks. Some people just can't and won't, uh, have their mind changed, even if science is against it."

Me: "Thank you, sir. They asked me to ask you a question. They said to ask if the predictions about how climate change will affect our future, if they are absolute facts or just theory?"

Climatologist: "Hey, you're very welcome. And to answer your friend's question, um, well we can't say that something that hasn't happened yet, we can't say that they are fact. But I strongly believe that, that the predictions are very, very accurate, so we can be sure that they are telling the truth."

Me: "Once again, thank you."

Climatologist: "You are very welcome."

[DezNutz]

Sure you did. What was his name and contact info. You can PM me.


LMAO ... Safely say is not definitive.

I can safely say that you are an idiot. The evidence from this topic provides sufficient data to safely state that.

[Leo]

Dez, there is a difference between having different opinions and being an idiot.

[Argo]

I just got off the phone.

Here is the direct transcript:

Me: "Hi, um I'd like to know, in regards to climate change if you can confidently say, as a climatologist, that climate change is real, and not just theory? I've been debating some people who seem to be a little on the skeptical side. "

Climatologist: "There is a certain point where with, um, with enough evidence you can, you can accurately say that climate change is real and is a real problem. And So we have enough evidence to, to, to safely say that these climate models are factual, not just predictions. And you sound like a bright young man, and if you, if you want my opinion, if you want my opinion, you are wasting your time debating with these folks. Some people just can't and won't, uh, have their mind changed, even if science is against it."

Me: "Thank you, sir. They asked me to ask you a question. They said to ask if the predictions about how climate change will affect our future, if they are absolute facts or just theory?"


Climatologist: "Hey, you're very welcome. And to answer your friend's question, um, well we can't say that something that hasn't happened yet, we can't say that they are fact. But I strongly believe that, that the predictions are very, very accurate, so we can be sure that they are telling the truth."

Me: "Once again, thank you."

Climatologist: "You are very welcome."

What?

Secondly..Don't assume to know me.

.I've never said I didn't believe we have problems. I've never said I don't care about the environment - I am hippie ffs!! Long before you came into this world I was hugging trees. I grew up in the topics on a boat barefoot on an island - on the great barrier reef - you think I have no understanding of the oceans, the life within them? I am no scientist - I am no expert. I do have personal experience and a dep love of my environment. I hung out with others like me, many of whom were environmentalists and scientists themselves who were very involved in protecting and preserving the reef and all the life contained within.

You don't have to be hysterical and grasp at paper straws to get your point across. And you don't have to run everybody else down doing it.

Looking after the planet is not something new for your generation Mustach and Kim.
You act like nobody cared or did anything let alone knew anything before you came along.

It did not start with your generation and Greta - (did she get some councelling?) - that child has been frightened out of her wits - by people who sprout irrational ' the world is ending - we are all going to die ' - As someone else mentioned - stop complaining and bitching at everyone and start putting your fact-based solutions forward.

Bah!

[Leo]

Greta Thunberg is a great inspiration to young people across the globe. And she's the wake up call that the world needs.

Don't act like we aren't doing enough ourselves.

We are the ones that will have to deal with the consequences of a climate crisis. We are the ones that will have to come up with a solution to mass flooding. We are the ones that will have to figure out a way to purify air. We are the ones that will have to deal with the devastating economic impact that climate change is going to have.

So don't give me that "you're just paranoid" garbage.

I do not think that the generations before us didn't know or care about the environmental problems that we are facing. You think I don't know about the 60s and 70s?

But generations before mine, specifically the silent generation and baby boomers, have massively contributed to changing the system to pollute and obliterate the environment. The rest just followed. I think that they should do their fair share and clean up after themselves! Don't deny the problem that you created. Work towards a solution.

Our fact based solution - and a big hope for us - was called the green new deal. But no. It was blocked by a 78-year-old man who doesn't have to face the consequences of the problem the he and other people started and contributed to.

[ChaIbaud]

I just got off the phone.

Here is the direct transcript:

Me: "Hi, um I'd like to know, in regards to climate change if you can confidently say, as a climatologist, that climate change is real, and not just theory? I've been debating some people who seem to be a little on the skeptical side. "

Climatologist: "There is a certain point where with, um, with enough evidence you can, you can accurately say that climate change is real and is a real problem. And So we have enough evidence to, to, to safely say that these climate models are factual, not just predictions. And you sound like a bright young man, and if you, if you want my opinion, if you want my opinion, you are wasting your time debating with these folks. Some people just can't and won't, uh, have their mind changed, even if science is against it."

Me: "Thank you, sir. They asked me to ask you a question. They said to ask if the predictions about how climate change will affect our future, if they are absolute facts or just theory?"

Climatologist: "Hey, you're very welcome. And to answer your friend's question, um, well we can't say that something that hasn't happened yet, we can't say that they are fact. But I strongly believe that, that the predictions are very, very accurate, so we can be sure that they are telling the truth."

Me: "Once again, thank you."

Climatologist: "You are very welcome."

And I "strongly believe" that God is real and that His prophecies are very, very accurate, so we can be sure that they are speaking of the truth. I'm sure somewhere here would disagree with that. I'm unsure what this served to prove/disprove

Edit: Also, I think Greta Thunberg is either being extremely pressured into this or she's making a gradual descent into the grandstanding championships. Everything you presented in a matter of opinion seemingly asserted as fact

[Leo]

The transcript? It wasn't meant to prove anything. You can interpret it however you want.

Why do you think Greta is being pressured?

I think Trump is being pressured into running for re-election.

[Argo]

What?

Why do I think Greta is being pressured? Im not saying anyone else is pressuring her...(why do you read things that are not there?)
Have you seen her speak?

Passion is one thing. Trauma is quite another.