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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby The Lamb » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:42 am

Sorry, but water vapor is THE largest and most important green house gas on the plant for temperature. I would be questioning your source, hell you can even go right on google and type "what is the number one green house gas"

Maybe you did largest emitted green house gas or something.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Meliva » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:45 am

El Draque wrote:Sorry, but water vapor is THE largest and most important green house gas on the plant for temperature. I would be questioning your source, hell you can even go right on google and type "what is the number one green house gas"

Maybe you did largest emitted green house gas or something.


That is what I think happened. He was shown the largest emitted one, rather then largest overall.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo the Conqueror » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:55 am

I don't know, you guys are probably right about this
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby The Lamb » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:00 am

So that was all i was trying to show with my question. So much real science is buried behind tons of garbage "Origional PHD Papers" and most uses fear to achieve an end goal. When you start to look through it, you find there is far more actually going on that humans have absolutely nothing to do with and to think that we can affect that on any sort of real scale is silly at best.

Last thoughts on this topic... water vapor is the biggest green house gas, but clouds (visible water vapor) reflects light from hitting the surface...hmmmmm. Hurricanes take heat (energy) from the equator and disburse it north. Its like the earth has systems to balance itself.

However, with that being said... Clean air -good... plastic in water - bad... i just think that people may actually be smart enough to do good by the planet without fear of Armageddon.

Blue, passion is fantastic, especially when it will help everyone everywhere, im not knocking you for it, im just saying you may actually be fascinated to see all the things going on that have nothing to do with burning gasoline. Serious, check out Milankovitch cycles, its actual science and cool as hell to learn about. Then for fun, look at the cycle in line with glaciation and season changes.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Meliva » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:26 am

Glad to see you are not upset about being mistaken. I certainly meant no ill will towards correcting you. If I was wrong about something I would want to be corrected myself. It was an honest mistake anyway. Funny how a few words can make all the difference.

Regardless, history has a habit of repeating itself. The Earth has gone through phases of intense heat and cold before. Look up snowball earth when you have free time. I do admit that humanity is having an impact on the earth, though in the scale of things we have only been here for a fraction of earh's life time, and none of our kind will be around when it's life ends. At least, not living on it at the time.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby PlagueDoctor » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:46 am

Correct, but:
"This is an example of a positive feedback loop: humans release CO2, which causes warming, which boosts evaporation, which in turn amplifies the warming. Indeed, scientists believe that evaporation is the most important positive feedback loop in the global climate system, doubling or tripling the sensitivity of the climate to CO2 emissions."

Here is a short outline:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... nhouse-gas
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby The Lamb » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:11 am

True, tis one of of the many things affecting us now... Weird thought though, if memory serves, we have about 300% the co2 in the air as we did during the last inter glacial period, yet we are still three degrees C cooler that it was then. It was warmer with less CO2...crazy right! Does that make anyone else think maybe CO2 doesnt play as big a role in temp as some are led to believe or do we all stick to our guns :beer

Lastly shouldnt we get back to discussing all these B.S. smears against Trump that have no basis other than "unnamed sources" report :D Or how he wasnt a racist in 2015, but was a racist as soon as he ran for president. :D
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo the Conqueror » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:52 am

I'll stick to "our guns" which is what climatologists say. They are they scientists, so we should listen to what they have to say about this. Maybe don't speculate on things like this.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo the Conqueror » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:09 am

El Draque wrote:True, tis one of of the many things affecting us now... Weird thought though, if memory serves, we have about 300% the co2 in the air as we did during the last inter glacial period, yet we are still three degrees C cooler that it was then. It was warmer with less CO2...crazy right! Does that make anyone else think maybe CO2 doesnt play as big a role in temp as some are led to believe or do we all stick to our guns :beer

Lastly shouldnt we get back to discussing all these B.S. smears against Trump that have no basis other than "unnamed sources" report :D Or how he wasnt a racist in 2015, but was a racist as soon as he ran for president. :D


He's always been racist. You want claims? How about his travel ban from predominantly Muslim countries? It was based on racist stereotypes and not facts. Also, the wall. Saying that "mexico is sending it's worst" and "they are rapists" doesn't seem racist to you? If not, then go check the definition of racism again. Also, racial majorities really don't get to decide if someone else who is also of that majority is racist. I shouldn't assume your race, but since you are defending Trump and only 0.5% of his supporters are ethnic minorities, it's extremely probably. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:36 am

Blue mustache wrote:
El Draque wrote:True, tis one of of the many things affecting us now... Weird thought though, if memory serves, we have about 300% the co2 in the air as we did during the last inter glacial period, yet we are still three degrees C cooler that it was then. It was warmer with less CO2...crazy right! Does that make anyone else think maybe CO2 doesnt play as big a role in temp as some are led to believe or do we all stick to our guns :beer

Lastly shouldnt we get back to discussing all these B.S. smears against Trump that have no basis other than "unnamed sources" report :D Or how he wasnt a racist in 2015, but was a racist as soon as he ran for president. :D


He's always been racist. You want claims? How about his travel ban from predominantly Muslim countries? It was based on racist stereotypes and not facts. Also, the wall. Saying that "mexico is sending it's worst" and "they are rapists" doesn't seem racist to you? If not, then go check the definition of racism again. Also, racial majorities really don't get to decide if someone else who is also of that majority is racist. I shouldn't assume your race, but since you are defending Trump and only 0.5% of his supporters are ethnic minorities, it's extremely probably. Correct me if I'm wrong.



lmao why cant you call a minority who is racist a racist? lmao funny rules you have
and since mexicans put up a wall of sorts to keep guatemalans out they are all racist too oops are they considered minorities or are you gonna call them racist only in mexico lol

at least get the quote right
“[Mexican illegal immigrants] are bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

but maybe you need to go check the percentage of hispanics backing trump before you go all social justice warrior on forums lol ill leave you some reading just to give your programming a break lol


A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll found Trump’s approval rebounding to 45 percent overall, with Hispanic approval jumping sharply—to 42 percent, after bottoming out at 22 percent on January 21. That result, like the early Marist number, suffers from a high margin of error. A more conservative rolling average puts the figure at around 35 percent, and rising.

Other polls also show Trump in the mid-30s with Hispanics. An Economist/YouGov poll found 32 percent approval rating among Hispanics; another from The Hill and HarrisX has it at 35 percent. In mid-January, Reuters/Ipsos found his approval among Hispanics at 36 percent, the highest since the 2016 election.

That’s about where Trump’s Hispanic approval spent most of 2018, according to previous POLITICO/Morning Consult polls, but about 10 points above where Reuters/Ipsos and Gallup polling showed him throughout the year. Whether keeping pace or on the rise, these polls suggest that Hispanics are responding to Trump as president more like Americans as a whole—close to 45 percent of whom approve of Trump—than like African-Americans, whose Trump approval remains around 10 percent.

That doesn’t necessarily translate into votes, Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion. Despite that 50 percent approval rate, his poll found that only 27 percent of Hispanics said that they definitely plan to vote for Trump in 2020, with 58 percent definitely voting against him. Still, a definite 27 percent, if accurate, is equal to the percentage of Hispanic voters who chose Trump in 2016 (28 percent), or Mitt Romney over Barack Obama in 2012 (27 percent), or Republicans in the 2018 congressional midterms (29 percent).

There appears to be room for growth. Morning Consult’s polling showed Trump approval among Hispanics at or above 40 percent for much of his first year in office, perhaps in something of a grace period, to which he could return.


And remember: pollsters in 2016 thought Trump would get only about 18 percent of the Hispanic vote; he actually got 28 percent. If polls are, for some reason, still underestimating his appeal among Hispanics by a similar margin, he could be on his way to 40 — and reelection.
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