Extended Griefing is prohibited

[Charles Vane]

TKP acting against griefers is the exact definition of moderating

[sXs]

TKP acting against griefers is the exact definition of moderating

Go back to Plato's debate of justice and the just man.

In your mind TKP may be seen as the moderator, from dmans perspective TKP is the guilty party.

Eye of the beholder I dare say.

Actually a Socratic debate which was revisited in The Republic of Plato.

[Dmanwuzhere]

TKP acting against griefers is the exact definition of moderating

Lol, TKP made no profit. It was not moderating it was griefing. As none of the members of TKP are admin then no job of moderation is applicable.
But I will probably be seeing you rejoin soon as I may try this moderating thing since it is an open application and a role taken on at will
See if its called the same for me

[Poppy]

How long is it long enough to make griefing extended/illegal?

[Dmanwuzhere]

By definition, it is not just time to my understanding.
More the intent.
If you are trying to keep an individual from returning to the game
that would be griefing.
If you have a few ships and are not worth hitting and you attack over and over at cost to you and no profit
that would be griefing
If you are hitting because you dont like someone personally
that would be griefing.
But I believe it is written so that ultimately it is the admins decision and not a group of griefers

[Kangaroo]

By definition, it is not just time to my understanding.
More the intent.
If you are trying to keep an individual from returning to the game
that would be griefing.
If you have a few ships and are not worth hitting and you attack over and over at cost to you and no profit
that would be griefing
If you are hitting because you dont like someone personally
that would be griefing.
But I believe it is written so that ultimately it is the admins decision and not a group of griefers

I think your definitions are correct, they are in line with how I read it at least.
As to the final line I am personally grateful that admin have taken an official stated stance, and don't feel it's a very long bow to believe that is a result of recent actions on both sides of the events you refer to.

Regardless the game is better off with the policy upfront and policed to the extent of it's intent

[Grimrock Litless]

Well, I guess this means I can stop being idle and start being a trader again.

[Poppy]

By definition, it is not just time to my understanding.
More the intent.
If you are trying to keep an individual from returning to the game
that would be griefing.
If you have a few ships and are not worth hitting and you attack over and over at cost to you and no profit
that would be griefing
If you are hitting because you dont like someone personally
that would be griefing.
But I believe it is written so that ultimately it is the admins decision and not a group of griefers

the definition of Griefing is nderstood. whats not yet understood is when does the "extended" part materialize?

[Mack]

when it becomes non profitable for the attacker i suppose...

say you have a bully, you decide to drop all ships and just cut loose with voodoo of any kind, just as a goal of makeing them leave you alone in the long run.. So you start casting voodoo to waste thier clearing voodoo, just to cost them credits and cards and turns.. you do this for some time.. now the point that the recipiant gets the idea you arnt an easy target and you keep on going just to be attacking, thats when its extended greifing, in my view atleast

the profit here would be the bully leaving you alone, once that is accomplished then any further attacks on the same fellow would be greifing, thatis unless the attacker is somehow profiting like plundering ships or gaining a port or anything like that

[Most Lee Harmless]

I hit you for 3 months : justified retaliation
You hit me for 3 days : unjustified griefing

See, its simple : all depends on your point of view.