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Re: Question To All Guilds.

Postby Shaydo » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:23 pm

X,
Why only answer my question and leave, can we not discuss this?
I have weighed the options, and as i stated, for my personal play style the system is fine, if it wasn't or i wasn't happy surely i'd have parted ways with the IMO long ago and pursued another guild that was more to my style or liking?

Brainwash the others in the guild i like it, although it couldn't help but make me wonder. And then it begged the question are you referring to me being highly intellectual and capable of molding peoples minds to my way of thinking, or that my peers are open to having there own thought process changed to my logic? If it's the first then i thank you, if it's the latter then i'd like to think my peers are capable of making there own decisions.

Graduation is happening to fast from IMO-TMN? Please pray tell, who was the last graduate, how long did he serve with IMO and what level of training did he receive prior to graduation, because surely all this information is required to make an informed decision on that matter?

Aye any person has the right to leave any guild at any time and apply for admittance into any other guild, after all it's only a game.

Although i must wonder reading the end, was everything above a way of trying to entice new members and wales citizens, hmm? I apologies but i have read similar tags on the bottom of a few posts now and well, it enters room for doubt.
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Re: Question To All Guilds.

Postby Shaydo » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:26 pm

Friend,
And what decision specifically is that out of curiosity?

More basic approaches to playing are fine, are there not multiple ways to play any game? Well probably not all to be fair, but most. I must admit I like that you use the words, So radically different, interesting turn of phrase that, so outside the box i didn't think of it, hmm.
You choose to say its not in by best interests, ok humor me if you will, What are by best interests then Friend, because if you know what is obviously not in my best interests then you must also know what obviously is, to be able to make such an assumption? And each guild will have it's own operating structure, who's to decide which is truly the best or not, all will have advantages and disadvantages, it's down to each player to weigh the advantages and disadvantages for each guild as meets his personal needs and decide which is most advantages for him.

You may be right about big explanations giving way to similar ones, most things can be simplified, but its a personal failing and i apologies, communication in a smaller amount of words doesn't always flow as easily for me. But alas your wrong, i respect my guild leader, I've been a guild leader on other games, while of yet i don't know how it compares here, i know there's normally a lot of work involved and it's not always a walk in the park and for that reason i respect anyone that chooses to run there own guild and deal with the troubles and the hassles that can arise.
So to all Guild leaders of Avonmore keep up the good work.

Answer me this if you will, if you choose to play less frequently than others and therefor would rather have someone with more power defending you than have that more power yourself what would you recommend the best approach would be then?

To that i can only say that you may indeed be correct, by joining IMO first my judgement and view of the game could have been warped and therefor all arguments i make could be fundamentally flawed, the only way to know would be a complete re-do but as that is not possible i guess it's a question we can never answer.

Thank you it was my first proper war and i wanted to get stuck in. Well now the war is done and the dust has settled no hard feelings :)?
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Re: Question To All Guilds.

Postby Xepshunall » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:48 pm

Shaydo wrote:To that i can only say that you may indeed be correct, by joining IMO first my judgement and view of the game could have been warped and therefor all arguments i make could be fundamentally flawed, the only way to know would be a complete re-do but as that is not possible i guess it's a question we can never answer.

Not true. Achilles wants you in the TMN. You could see the other side of the coin hands-on. You'll have a trade partner when you get to the TMN anyway so you might as well experience it now until you are good for the TMN. I would be happy to bring you on board and get you some experience as long as your fame is not as important as your education.

You may even ask ABP to assign you a battle practice partner from within the IMO, which would help two of her loyalists. I'll even make it easy for both of you to deal with the cost of building your combat ship that you'll use for practice.

Shaydo wrote:X,
Brainwash the others in the guild i like it, although it couldn't help but make me wonder. And then it begged the question are you referring to me being highly intellectual and capable of molding peoples minds to my way of thinking, or that my peers are open to having there own thought process changed to my logic? If it's the first then i thank you, if it's the latter then i'd like to think my peers are capable of making there own decisions.

I don't try to flatter you or to insult others. In fact I've made no judgments pertaining to your intellect. I go by what has been said to me by Achilles who says you're very sharp. I also only say that, since they are where they are, they are accustomed to things being the way they are and it only takes a few words that a person wants to hear in order to convince them that they made the right decision.
Shaydo wrote:Graduation is happening to fast from IMO-TMN? Please pray tell, who was the last graduate, how long did he serve with IMO and what level of training did he receive prior to graduation, because surely all this information is required to make an informed decision on that matter?

Achilles is a personal friend of mine. I visited him on the way through his town. I want what's best for him and his guild. It is clear that trade is what qualifies a player for graduation to TMN. I hope to add battle tactics to that and a fleet of ships that can be used effectively when TMN calls on you.
Shaydo wrote:Although i must wonder reading the end, was everything above a way of trying to entice new members and wales citizens, hmm? I apologies but i have read similar tags on the bottom of a few posts now and well, it enters room for doubt.

I made it clear that a player can get their training with me whether they want to become a Wales citizen or not. A Wales citizen is more valuable to me because he agrees to add influence to the port that Wales is working on controlling. It's just good logic. Anyone who comes to The Plague will be put on the fast track to success as soon as they demonstrate some understanding of the merchant aspects of the game and ship speeds. I will appreciate those that will benefit the Wales nation while I help all who are in my guild regardless of nation. A prime example is:
Portugal (Citizen) hollowman (#27046) Sail Master 50 4,250,980
He doesn't want to become Wales but he has a home here and has been put on the fast track. I won't ask more than that a member trade voodoo with his partner and build your fleets up to easily sustain your combat fleet that you'll go to TMN with if you choose TMN. I'll provide you a fleet of level 1 SoLs that your trade profit will be used to level up. When you have sufficient combat skills and a fleet of level 10's, you will be what a guild like TMN needs. I don't train warmongers. If you plunder outside your battle pair and it's not for rank or is concentrated on one guild's members then you will lose favor. No battling for anger or for personal gain (except rank).


So, can you see how lightening the load on ABP could benefit her guild (specifically your battle partner who will likely have a gradual increase in fame due to your higher level of success. Not that I put much value to fame since it is only good for impressing other players), the TMN and the player who transfers to another guild for preparation for their final home?
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Re: Question To All Guilds.

Postby Random pandah » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:15 pm

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Re: Question To All Guilds.

Postby Shaydo » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:56 pm

Ahh i believe you misunderstood me. I meant i wouldn't be able to play through again from scratch, being in a different guild and having a trade partner from the start, had i then my view of the game up to know and the acquisition and use of voodoo may be different from what it currently is, it may not, that is what we shan't be able to ascertain. Going to have a trade partner now would allow me to experience the other side of the coin this is true, and may even change my judgement time will tell on that matter.
Lol originally fame seemed important to me, then we went to war, yeah not so much anymore :).

I'm currently happy were i am sailing with the IMO, but thank you for the offer. As of recently costs are nay other really now, tell me do you know todays most profitable trade route?

Can't fault your logic there sometimes people will simply go with the flow so to speak because its either all they know or it just seems simpler. However i will always allow for both sides to be considered and discussed because only then can we truly ascertain a good understanding, i will mere lay out my thoughts on the matter, allow people to make their own decisions and reply to any comments or questions.

Ahh of your relations with Achillies i was not aware, so granted you may then have knowledge of the internal operations, So if what you propose is to assist the IMO members in knowledge acquisition and growth within the game then perhaps at a later date we can have a conversation away from the boards?

I know you'll accept any captain regardless of the nations flag he flies and it was nay meant as an insult, it was merely an observation that i'd seen similar posts, although you did offer an increase in financial aid to any who choose to fly the wales flag, although i suppose that can be looked on as merely incentive to change nation. Your logic is sound i'll nay argue with you there, if everyone in a guild were to fly the same nations flag then the whole guild would be working not only towards a guild objective but also a nation objective in seizing and controlling ports which in theory would make controlling certain ports easier, but that would be down to each guilds internal mechanics and the decision of its members, as is the operating of any guild.
Then you will ask something specific of them with there voodoo, it's logical i fault you not, it allows for mutual progression in stockpiles of all members and it's how your guild chooses to operate, again i fault you not, for each to there own.
A fleet of lvl 1 Sols is a nice welcome package, 3,250,000 is a sizable some but transition would require multiple commandeer cards. For this i agree a strong combat fleet is essential in any ones armory.
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Re: Question To All Guilds.

Postby Xepshunall » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:38 pm

Shaydo wrote:A fleet of lvl 1 Sols is a nice welcome package, 3,250,000 is a sizable some but transition would require multiple commandeer cards. For this i agree a strong combat fleet is essential in any ones armory.


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Re: Question To All Guilds.

Postby Juicypotato » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:16 pm

And you could be my present partner and have the voodoo god xepenshunall as your guardian!!! When you were praising blackpants and all, she has voodoo from all the other players but x even has more than she does! If i were a super smart guy like you and could write up long convincing 20 sentence paragraphs, you would see the true value of the offer x gives you. As being a past wales citizen x was very generous to me and taught me alot of things i didn't know and i even taught him a thing or two. ;)

When you say that imo is the best place ever what has imo done for you and what have you done for imo? If you did more for imo you are not in a good situation to be in that guild.

BTW: I would like a present partner but its not completely necessary because i send present to all of my friends.
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Re: Question To All Guilds.

Postby Edward_Teach » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:43 pm

Juicylettuce wrote:And you could be my present partner and have the voodoo god xepenshunall as your guardian!!! When you were praising blackpants and all, she has voodoo from all the other players but x even has more than she does! If i were a super smart guy like you and could write up long convincing 20 sentence paragraphs, you would see the true value of the offer x gives you. As being a past wales citizen x was very generous to me and taught me alot of things i didn't know and i even taught him a thing or two. ;)

When you say that imo is the best place ever what has imo done for you and what have you done for imo? If you did more for imo you are not in a good situation to be in that guild.

BTW: I would like a present partner but its not completely necessary because i send present to all of my friends.

Lettuce,
Why do i care if X has more voodoo the ABP. Sure, voodoo is an essential part of the game but, i find, that if you have a guild that is willing to use voodoo to help each other, it's all good. I send my gift to ABP almost every time, and thats because I can. It's all a matter of choice and opinion. I believe IMO and TMN are the best guilds because I'm in the IMO and my opinion of it is that it's awesome! The guilds just cool, cooperative, and just an all around good guild. But thats just MY opinion.(and all the other players that are in the guild)

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Re: Question To All Guilds.

Postby Roileon » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:45 pm

We should be present partners. It would do way more good that both of us sending voodoo to one person who on rare occasion might help us.
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Re: Question To All Guilds.

Postby Juicypotato » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:57 pm

Yeah instead of feeding your riches to one player that gives you a bone some of the time. But if bp gets 50 presents per day, is she really giving it back to the guild? IMO was formed 6 months ago so bp has 7500 presents from imo. Did bp give everybody in the history of imo 7500 presents worth :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:


Lets be cool and be present partners roi while all those suckers don't get to look forward to that extra voodoo card per day :mrgreen: :geek:
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