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Re: (Legendary) Tax Evasion

Postby Mugiwara » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:40 pm

make it "you will get gold equal to upkeep costs instead of paying it" now it may become legendary. due to counter move for reset time raids and taxation:D
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Re: (Legendary) Tax Evasion

Postby Grimrock Litless » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:12 pm

DoS wrote:My duty be to sort bad and good voodoo, and cast my vote on it. I am not going to spill my heart out, but instead state my 2 cents.


If you want a more in depth evaluation.

Most payers have a taxes that revolves around 100k-300k. (I have a good amount of fleets, and mine is in the middle of that scale).

Reduce by 8? It is 37.5k even at 300k which is the max of the scale.

1 Bribe alone is worth way more than this save.

Sure you can factor in this as a direct counter to taxation. But a serenity can fix that as well. You gonna tell me that there should be a legendary card as a direct counter to a rare card? This is not powerful and I don't see it being a legendary.


It's more than you said, it's duration lasts for 5 days, at from 300k to 37k as you speak for 5 upkeep. This counters Tax and save you money if you have a large amount of upkeep. This save can also stop you from getting 0 Gold if you have no money and is offline.
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Re: (Legendary) Tax Evasion

Postby Grimrock Litless » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:20 pm

Mugiwara wrote:make it "you will get gold equal to upkeep costs instead of paying it" now it may become legendary. due to counter move for reset time raids and taxation:D


That is actually not a bad idea, it would completely neutralize any upkeep.
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Re: (Legendary) Tax Evasion

Postby Donald Trump » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:26 pm

Stipends is already enough to counter these "raids." And all this does is add little weakener to soften the blow.


A mere 1.3mil saved over those 5 days if you have an upkeep of 300k. Bribe is still worth more alone. And a card saving you only 1.3mil over 5 days should NOT be a legendary card.

And you know what else stops getting 0 gold when the tax hits? Carrying more than 300k gold on you and not being a complete idiot who is oblivious to basic game mechanics. There should be no voodoo that shields others from such stupidity or laziness. In fact, my stance would be towards voodoo that exploits such actions for the offense. There should be more risk and those who cannot comply with the basics should learn to comply at their own expense; not be shielded by a horde of cuddly voodoo.

I have not said it yet. But -1.
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Re: (Legendary) Tax Evasion

Postby DezNutz » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:51 am

5 days and 4 hours duration?


In its current standing -1

As a possible alternative:

Shorten the duration to 3 days (72 hrs).

Change Recipe to 2 Taxation, 1 Hidden Treasure

Change Effect to: Daily Upkeep and Taxes are set to zero for the duration
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Re: (Legendary) Tax Evasion

Postby Bmw » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:31 am

for new players that dont have a solid backup in case if they end up in a war this would be good other then that it wont do much.
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Re: (Legendary) Tax Evasion

Postby Grimrock Litless » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:17 am

DezNutz wrote:5 days and 4 hours duration?


In its current standing -1

As a possible alternative:

Shorten the duration to 3 days (72 hrs).

Change Recipe to 2 Taxation, 1 Hidden Treasure

Change Effect to: Daily Upkeep and Taxes are set to zero for the duration


I see, Edited.

DoS wrote:Stipends is already enough to counter these "raids." And all this does is add little weakener to soften the blow.


A mere 1.3mil saved over those 5 days if you have an upkeep of 300k. Bribe is still worth more alone. And a card saving you only 1.3mil over 5 days should NOT be a legendary card.

And you know what else stops getting 0 gold when the tax hits? Carrying more than 300k gold on you and not being a complete idiot who is oblivious to basic game mechanics. There should be no voodoo that shields others from such stupidity or laziness. In fact, my stance would be towards voodoo that exploits such actions for the offense. There should be more risk and those who cannot comply with the basics should learn to comply at their own expense; not be shielded by a horde of cuddly voodoo.

I have not said it yet. But -1.


So what you are saying is, its too weak to be a legendary, am I correct? Or that it is too expensive to even use even if it is legendary.
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Re: (Legendary) Tax Evasion

Postby Donald Trump » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:05 am

Both.
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Re: (Legendary) Tax Evasion

Postby Grimrock Litless » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:35 am

DoS wrote:Both.


How about now?
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Re: (Legendary) Tax Evasion

Postby Donald Trump » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:47 pm

I think ship taxes to the nation should still be paid in full.
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